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Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#152
post #143

It makes me a little sad we only ever see FF hit the front page of HN for stuff people are angry about. The FF team building useful features like tab groups that are improving UX. But I guess if it bleeds it leads.

Maybe the Firefox team should stop doing bad things if they don’t want people saying bad things about them.

Not getting in front page is likely not better then getting on front page due to controversial thing.(AI isn't "bad", its controversial)

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#153
post #143

It makes me a little sad we only ever see FF hit the front page of HN for stuff people are angry about. The FF team building useful features like tab groups that are improving UX. But I guess if it bleeds it leads.

Maybe the Firefox team should stop doing bad things if they don’t want people saying bad things about them.

"The policeman wore his belt in a way I didn't enjoy, therefore I will take up residence with the drug dealer."

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#154
post #143

It makes me a little sad we only ever see FF hit the front page of HN for stuff people are angry about. The FF team building useful features like tab groups that are improving UX. But I guess if it bleeds it leads.

Maybe the Firefox team should stop doing bad things if they don’t want people saying bad things about them.

The point is that it's the least bad browser ecosystem and it only gets negativity whereas Chrome, Brave, etc. get mostly dickriding instead.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#155
post #24

Why is Firefox adding AI features?

- Creating alternate sources of revenue.

- Chrome and Edge are going to do it as well sooner or later, and Mozilla's modus operandi has been to largely copy feature sets from Chrome to stay relevant.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it pisses off the people who use it, its existence will be irrelevant.

"Nooooo, you need to use FF no matter how much it pisses you off, since we can't let Google be a monopoly (even though it already is and it's the government's job to crack down monopolies)"

Did you know..

Mozilla get >80% of its revenue from Google, by making Google Search as default search engine on Firefox.

While Mozilla pretends to be a non-profit, its CEO makes millions of dollars annually.

Mitchell Baker: Stepped down as CEO of Mozilla in February 2024. Her salary for 2023 was reported to be $6.9 million. Laura Chambers: Became interim CEO of Mozilla in February 2024. Mozilla has not disclosed her salary for 2024 yet.

As of October 2025, the average annual salary for employees at Mozilla in the United States is ~$115k.

Not bad for a "non-profit", eh?

Yup, Mozilla and Firefox are surviving (nay, thriving) due to Google.

But Google's hand on the Mozilla tiller, is merely the top of the proverbial iceberg. Google has a monopoly on the browser market, encouraged by Apple Safari slipping down to Google's Chrome (>71% market share) and the other Chromium forks (>9% market share: Edge ~4.5%, Samsung Internet Browser ~2%, Brave/Vivaldi/etc. ~1%) dominate the browser market. Opera (~1.75% market share) is not a Chromium fork, but it is based on Chromium Project.

https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#158
Did you know..

Mozilla get >80% of its revenue from Google, by making Google Search as default search engine on Firefox.

While Mozilla pretends to be a non-profit, its CEO makes millions of dollars annually.

Mitchell Baker: Stepped down as CEO of Mozilla in February 2024. Her salary for 2023 was reported to be $6.9 million. Laura Chambers: Became interim CEO of Mozilla in February 2024. Mozilla has not disclosed her salary for 2024 yet.

As of October 2025, the average annual salary for employees at Mozilla in the United States is ~$115k.

Not bad for a "non-profit", eh?

Yup, Mozilla and Firefox are surviving (nay, thriving) due to Google.

But Google's hand on the Mozilla tiller, is merely the top of the proverbial iceberg. Google has a monopoly on the browser market, encouraged by Apple Safari slipping down to Google's Chrome (>71% market share) and the other Chromium forks (>9% market share: Edge ~4.5%, Samsung Internet Browser ~2%, Brave/Vivaldi/etc. ~1%) dominate the browser market. Opera (~1.75% market share) is not a Chromium fork, but it is based on Chromium Project.

https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#159
post #4

Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.

I'm waiting for the day we get microwaves with an AI that turns them off once the timer reaches zero.

Every microwave turns off when the timer reaches zero. It'd be better to have AI that turns it off when the timer reaches one so that I don't have to quickly stop it before the bell goes off. Better yet, a mute function would do the same thing.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#160

It makes me a little sad we only ever see FF hit the front page of HN for stuff people are angry about. The FF team building useful features like tab groups that are improving UX. But I guess if it bleeds it leads.

Am I the only one who remembers the old tab groups that were removed before these new tab groups were added?

Edit: Ah, it seems Mozilla remembers: https://web.archive.org/web/20151112023150/https://support.m... (linking archive.org in case they take it down, this is the first copy I can find)

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