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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by spookie »

lm28469 wrote: post #60
letmetweakit wrote: post #19

Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

They've always been like this, it's why the market share is as as low as it is vs US.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

Aurornis wrote: post #44
letmetweakit wrote: post #19

Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

Removing the charger is a good move, in my opinion. USB-C chargers are everywhere now. Monitors with USB-C or Thunderbolt inputs will charge your laptop, too. I bought a monitor that charges over the USB-C cable and I haven’t use the charger that came with the laptop in years because I have a smaller travel charger that I prefer for trips anyway. You don’t have to buy the premium Apple charger and cable. There are ma…

My MacBook M1 Pro w/ 441 cycles started doing a fun thing where if the battery gets under about 50% and you put it to sleep, the ONLY way to power on the device is to use the exact charger it came with. Higher powered Apple Studio Display PD, or even good 3rd party chargers, do not bring it back to life. This occurs even when the battery has 40-60% remaining if the laptop goes to sleep.

Had a similar issue with my 2018 MBP Intel - the 86/87 Watt Apple charger was the only thing it would come to life with as the battery aged if the device got too low.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#153

Post by Ambroos »

lm28469 wrote: post #68
Ambroos wrote: post #3

The lack of WiFi 7 is disappointing. 6E is fine but by now I'd expect 7 in new computers.

homoconsomator needs bigger numbers even if he acknowledges smaller number is ok. What do you do on wifi that requires more than 10gb per seconds... on a laptop, you'd fill up the base model ssd in under a minute of download

I run our office IT, and WiFi 7 is just better at managing congestion. We have a floor in a busy building and 5Ghz is chaos. 6E is fine, it's just strangely old for a company like Apple.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#154

Post by leakycap »

whydid wrote: post #125
lm28469 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

The EU requires a 1 year warranty on electronics, where in the US it's only 90 days. The higher cost of electronics reflects this.

> where in the US it's only 90 days

As far as I know, the US has zero warranty laws. It can be zero days.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#155

Post by leakycap »

coldtea wrote: post #82
scosman wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget the environmental impact of a smaller box. The box will probably be less than half as thick, doubling shipping efficiency. These are air freight, so the CO2 impact is not negligible. I'll take the discount and use one of my 12 existing USB-C chargers.

> Don't forget the environmental impact of a smaller box Compared to the marginal environmental impact to source materials, build hardware and parts, assemble, ship, stock, and transport to customer each unit, the box could be 10x larger and it wouldn't make a dent.

> ship ... the box could be 10x larger and it wouldn't make a dent

This is not how shipping works.

A larger box, even by 1 inch on any direction, absolutely makes a huge difference when shipping in manufacturing quantities. Let's not pretend physical volume doesn't exist just to make an argument.

10 planes flying with MacBooks == much different than 1 plane (in other words, when you 10x the size of something, as you suggest, it does actually have a huge impact)

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#156

Post by ksec »

Aurornis wrote: post #44
letmetweakit wrote: post #19

Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

Removing the charger is a good move, in my opinion. USB-C chargers are everywhere now. Monitors with USB-C or Thunderbolt inputs will charge your laptop, too. I bought a monitor that charges over the USB-C cable and I haven’t use the charger that came with the laptop in years because I have a smaller travel charger that I prefer for trips anyway. You don’t have to buy the premium Apple charger and cable. There are ma…

>USB-C chargers are everywhere now

USB-C 15W Chargers may be everywhere, but higher power charger required for MacBook Pro is not.

I would have agreed if the devices is using 10W or 20W where you could charge it slightly slower. Not for a 70W to 100W MacBook Pro though.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#157

Post by jiriro »

If I buy in the US and use it in the EU – will the Apple Intelligence work?

I would be happy to sacrifice the EU keyboard and have the AI instead :-)

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#158

Post by justonceokay »

michaelt wrote: post #83
justonceokay wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For perspective I have a 12 year old MacBook with 8 gigs of ram and it’s still perfectly usable for all the things I do on it. If you need more RAM because you are video encoding, compiling, or gaming (why!?) then you aren’t a basic consumer. I’m not trying into be a fanboy and maybe it’s a little bit “cope”, but apple has always put as much RAM as is necessary for the computer to work—and not a lot more—in their bas…

The $1599 M5 Macbook Pro: Good enough for a guy who thinks a 12-year-old MacBook with 8 gigs of ram is "still perfectly usable" :)

I know it’s silly, but I think I represent over 90% of apples customers in that way. I just need something that reads emails and shows me porn.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by silverwind »

masklinn wrote: post #126
rvitorper wrote: post #45

Looks premium, eco-responsible, powerful, just like the M4. And the M3. And the one before. Does anyone know what exactly changed this year?

https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/?modelList=MacBook-Air-M4,... - m4 -> m5, same core number and distribution, "neural accelerators", higher memory bandwidth - max storage increased from 2 to 4TB (and probably an extra kidney in price) Everything else is strictly identical. The marketing blurb claims 2~3x the performances of the M4 for AI stuff (I assume that's the neural accelerators), 20% for CPU tasks (compiling),…

4TB was available before, maybe only coupled with a Max CPU, which seems not available yet for M5.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by rogerrogerr »

StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #123
lm28469 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

Apple overprices everything in the EU on top of not shipping new features. Currency risk is a thing but nowhere near the premium they charge. I personally vote with my wallet and stopped buying anything from them.

Who don’t you vote with your vote and oppose regs that are preventing Apple from shipping new features in the EU?
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