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Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by rayiner »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #54
rayiner wrote: post #20

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> while the percentage of households with guns has gone down, significantly The civilian gun stock has grown significantly since the 60s [1]. These data, together, seem to imply a large (but declining) number of households with a couple of guns and a few households with a ridiculous number of guns. Of course, the dagger in your argument is that American divorce rates are not extraordinary [2]. Our gun ownership and s…

Surely the more relevant metric is the percentage of households with at least one gun? Guns are durable goods that people don’t dispose of, so of course they accumulate. My father in law has boats, old cars, and guns piling up around his house. But school shootings typically aren’t committed by people rummaging through their grandparents’ basements, right?

Similarly, it surely is better to compare the same country over time instead of comparing different countries which differ in many additional respects? If your thesis that the availability of guns causes school shootings is true, you should expect to see school shootings going down in the U.S. as the practical availability of a gun goes down.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by rayiner »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #143
robotresearcher wrote: post #81

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> Of course, the dagger in your argument is… Reading comprehension moment: the parent comment was carefully not claiming either side of the argument. Your response, and the downvotes, are as if they declared for the locally unpopular side. They did not.

> Your response, and the downvotes I upvoted rayiner’s comment because it’s argued in good faith. (What would be in bad faith would be putting forward a third party’s flawed argument without pointing out the flaws for shits and giggles.)

I certainly believe in the argument so no problem ascribing it to me.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by metwo1234 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #11
metwo1234 wrote: post #6

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1) Nobody should ever die for what they say. 2) Nobody should ever get arrested for saying it was good that someone died, or that they're not sad about it, or that the world is better off without them, or that they were a hateful person, or any number of other things someone might say.

2) If someone says "it is good this person died we should kill more people like this" and someone goes and follows through should they get arrested for that?

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by fzeroracer »

nailer wrote: post #104
tuckwat wrote: post #10

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Yes, Dang has been manually unflagging stories recently so HN has become a very different place in the last half year or so.

HN has always had a trend of political posts. The James Damore story here got massive over claims of his freedom of speech being violated. The 'Twitter Files' which was a whole lot of nothing also blew up.

Dang can't really win here as someone else mentioned because we're in unprecedented times. Tech CEOs are going full mask off, like how the Salesforce CEO is asking for the government to send in troops to SF [1] or YC openly courting people deeply tied to the admin. So now you have people noting the hypocrisy of some users being tired of politics conveniently as it ramps up more and more into our personal lives and as tech becomes the government.

[1] https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/10/salesforce-ceo-says-nation...

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by jandrewrogers »

rayiner wrote: post #20
hyperhello wrote: post #3

> Bushart did not elaborate, but the context seems clear: Why should I care about this shooting, when the sitting president said I should "get over" this other shooting? From one perspective, this is clearly bad governance. He's using his free speech rights that generations of us died for, to point out hypocrisy. I'm going to say it, and we'll see if I get arrested for it. Charlie Kirk was one of the useful idiots gr…

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Up until the 1960s, almost all of the mass casualty events at schools, including the largest one in US history, were accomplished using explosives. If you only look at shootings you'll miss the bigger picture.

The most interesting question that arises from this is why the switch from explosives to firearms by perpetrators of mass casualty events.

It wasn't due to regulations on high-explosives, which were essentially cash-and-carry for the entire 20th century. On the other hand, regulation of firearms greatly increased starting in the 1960s.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by someemptyspace »

scythe wrote: post #134
_heimdall wrote: post #24

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That should be where the right to a speedy trial comes into play. If he is held in jail because he isn't released on bail, the best thing to do is repeatedly file motions for the speedy trial.

I think if there's a major constitutional right to be invoked here, it's the Eighth Amendment "excessive bail shall not be required". Two million dollars?! For a 61-year-old posting on Facebook? What kind of risk does he pose exactly?

He can post again, so highly likely to "reoffend".

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by Legend2440 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #147
JohnTHaller wrote: post #111

Due to Tennessee law, he has to come up with $210,000 himself to get bail from a bondsmen. And he loses $10,000 of that permanently. TN law is designed to keep non-rich folks in jail. He likely won't get his trial for months in TN. Also by design.

> he has to come up with $210,000 himself Source?

The linked article.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by tastyface »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #145
nailer wrote: post #101

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FWIW I agree Kirk shouldn't have made fun of Paul Pelosi. I think Kirk probably wouldn't be proud of his own behaviour there.

> think Kirk probably wouldn't be proud of his own behaviour there He had years to apologise. It could have meaningfully altered the temperature of our discourse, particularly among young men. He never did. Kirk gets no credit for amends he never made.

This is how Charlie Kirk got on my radar:

"Mere weeks before his death, Kirk reveled in Trump's deployment of federal troops to DC. 'Shock and awe. Force,' he wrote. 'We're taking our country back from these cockroaches.'"

Cockroaches! Literally language of the Rwandan genocide. And it's a Christian saying this about other human beings? The man never changed.

(Obviously, he should not have been shot. But his sanctification is repulsive.)

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by selectodude »

childintime wrote: post #120
selectodude wrote: post #32

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Man getting jailed and having bail set at $2 million for a Facebook post isn’t “politics”.

Then what was it? Standard procedure?

It’s a serious eighth amendment violation.
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