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Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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TL;DR: you shouldn't assume your data or activity is in any way anonymous when using these services. These VPNs are useful for changing your region for streaming and not much else. Otherwise, the traffic being routed through these VPNs is basically much more likely to involve "questionable" activity than ordinary traffic - and when you send your traffic through it, you are basically highlighting it as such - and all of this is well-known and of extreme interest to anyone interested in snooping on or analyzing such "questionable" activity.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did until they killed port forwarding.

OOC what's your current favored provider? AirVPN? Proton?

Proton right now. It's okay but it causes some network issues even when it's set to split tunnel default-exclude.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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If you’re worried about your VPN provider but you can trust your VPS provider, try an SSH Tunnel. https://joeldare.com/ssh-tunnels-my-vpn-alternative-for-priv...

Thanks for the link. How does this work on the server side? It gets packets on 8080 and then what? The article needs to explain the server config, even if it is just how to install ssh-server. I have tried setting up OpenVPN on my own VPS and I didn't get very far with it. I have also had to use OpenVPN in the day job and I much prefer just using ssh without some extravagant OpenVPN layer. My experience of failing to…

VPS's that you can easily spin up for an hour or two tend to charge $$$$ for egress bandwidth, which makes them an unattractive option for streaming video over.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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post #155

I’m not a big expert on the VPN tech side, but it always seemed to me that the most logical option for those that actually understand about VPN is Proton, or am I missing something here?

Im a happy Proton user myself but if someone wanted the absolute most secure and private and reputable VPN I would point them to Mullvad. The main reason I use Proton is because I use the other apps in their suite as well and I get the VPN in the package deal. The threat model is good enough for my use cases

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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A long time ago, I have difficulty removing payment card information from ExpressVPN.

Managed to contact support to remove it but they merely zeroed out (it shows 0 for the visible fields) the card details rather than truly removing payment information.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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post #155

I’m not a big expert on the VPN tech side, but it always seemed to me that the most logical option for those that actually understand about VPN is Proton, or am I missing something here?

Company who's blog post this is ain't bad either if you're looking for a non-ecosystem VPN. Proton is trying to be Nord and create an ecosystem of products that store all your most private data, all under the umbrella of 1 company which defeats the whole point of a VPN who should have no data on you (not even an email).

PS. I'm from the company who's blog post this is.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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post #155

I’m not a big expert on the VPN tech side, but it always seemed to me that the most logical option for those that actually understand about VPN is Proton, or am I missing something here?

Im a happy Proton user myself but if someone wanted the absolute most secure and private and reputable VPN I would point them to Mullvad. The main reason I use Proton is because I use the other apps in their suite as well and I get the VPN in the package deal. The threat model is good enough for my use cases

Mullvad doesn't support port forwarding [1] for users that need it unlike proton vpn [2].

Although I have never needed it myself, which in that case Mullvad might be better since they require minimal registration details.

[1]: https://mullvad.net/en/blog/removing-the-support-for-forward...

[2]: https://protonvpn.com/support/port-forwarding

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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post #155

I’m not a big expert on the VPN tech side, but it always seemed to me that the most logical option for those that actually understand about VPN is Proton, or am I missing something here?

The companies to trust are the ones that don’t run ads. I’ve used mullvad for a decade, before that airvpn.
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