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Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by ge96 »

ajkjk wrote: post #146
ge96 wrote: post #139

The newest thin fold looks amazing but I can't justify a $2K phone idk maybe I'm just poor. Like I used to want a Lamborghini Aventador but now I just want a Lotus Exige. $300K seems too much too me but again is it a poor/mindset thing. I think a land would be better use of that money. Mindset as in levels... I used to be afraid of my $30K student debt while I was in school thinking getting an engineering job that pa…

lol, what is going on inside this comment, you're like whiplashing between having preferences and explaining why you should want fancy things but then actually you don't. like... it's completely okay to not want something expensive not because you're poor but because you just don't want to spend money on it; your preferences for what's worth money to you don't have to be justified to anyone else. Except for maybe you…

Yeah I'm working on the debt part

The car thing I like driving fast/sporty cars, cheapest one for performance would be an older Corvette but yeah (not saying Lambo is performance, that one it's the looks, Exige though is both though different eg. acceleration/curve handling vs. top speed).

I'm just saying, there was a guy I was talking to who owned a Lambo and he's like "if it went up in flames I'd be fine", it's like I have to get to that headspace or maybe I'm not built that way not sure

But yeah I do go back and forward between wanting things/feeling guilty for being better off than others

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by MBCook »

rs186 wrote: post #16

So the facts we know are that 1) Samsung market share rising from 23% to 31% and 2) they recently released new foldable phones. But do we know that's the actual primary reason for the increase? I couldn't tell that from the article. The article mentions engagement of specific social media posts, but that's as much as it, without any sales number/estimates from anyone.

I heard a stat the other day in the Dithering podcast, I’m not sure from where, that said that foldable phones are something like 1.7% of the market in the US.

If that’s close it’s not why Samsung‘s market share increased so much. That was for ALL foldable phones of all brands. That wouldn’t make statistical sense.

There are people who like foldable phones. Apple does not have them. And Samsung‘s market share went up.

Thats all we know. The rest is a catchy headline.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by runjake »

ls-a wrote: post #89
rs186 wrote: post #16

So the facts we know are that 1) Samsung market share rising from 23% to 31% and 2) they recently released new foldable phones. But do we know that's the actual primary reason for the increase? I couldn't tell that from the article. The article mentions engagement of specific social media posts, but that's as much as it, without any sales number/estimates from anyone.

Foldable phones are selling like hot cakes outside the U.S. but I don't know about the U.S. market. Could be catching up. Here are some things to know about folding phones 1. They're like expensive cars. Do not own one without a warranty 2. As soon as the new model comes out, swap it in 3. If you're into smaller phones, they're a good option 4. They are not for the financially conscious. Those things are kind of a st…

Anecdotal, but I'm seeing a lot of folding phones in public.

I look at the prices and wonder how some of the people I see with them can afford them. But using them is probably many people's favorite hobby at this point?

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by skc »

I was sceptical about this for factor seeing as it seemed like a gimmicky throwback to the early to mid 2000s.

But honestly, now that I've played around with Samsungs offerings I get it. Back in the day phones had quite a bit of personality, and Samsung really nailed that aspect.

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Post by Marsymars »

pseudocomposer wrote: post #107
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #52

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I genuinely think book reading is the killer app for foldable devices. A bigger screen for a movie or TV is nice to have, but not a game changer. When you have that much screen real estate you can get a really enjoyable experience reading a novel or just easily read a textbook or research paper in a way that's simply not possible on even the largest of what you might consider a typical size phone. Plus, you no longer…

I agree with your first paragraph. For your second, I think you don’t understand why people buy/use iPads. First off, I don’t really know anyone who uses an iPad mini for anything productive (other than as a test device). A 7-9” screen is just not useful compared to a 13” iPad for things like Sidecar or reading sheet music in live performances. The 7-9” screen being an unfolded phone doesn’t change this. A folding iP…

The iPad Mini form factor with cell connectivity is pretty great when you're travelling light.

My normal international travel load-out is a backup smart phone + an 8" LTE tablet with eSIM + bluetooth keyboard. It's about as minimal as I can get while still having a real keyboard and functional screen size to handle travel logistics.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by Marsymars »

thewebguyd wrote: post #134
baby wrote: post #109

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You probably are in the target market but it's hard to understand how life changing it is without having one for at least a day.

It's only life changing if you use your phone for most of your computing. I don't, I tried a foldable and barely used it unfolded, just didn't "get it." If I need to do something that's frustrating on a phone screen, I don't use my phone - I almost always have my laptop with me, or my iPad near by. If I don't, it can probably wait until I get home anyway. Consequently, probably why I might be "downgrading" from a pro…

That's exactly my phone use. I still want a fast phone because a laggy interface will make my phone use even more annoying for the use I do have, but trying a foldable for a week or so it just felt like something clunkier to carry around in between using my tablet or desktop.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by Marsymars »

baby wrote: post #113
dyauspitr wrote: post #88

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Sounds horrible to me. Why would I want to do the extra step of flipping things open and typing in two form factors. But then I’m not really watching long form videos on my phone so maybe I’m just not the target market.

Imagine that you need to grab your laptop or your tablet because you need a larger screen, now you can just do that from a small movement

Except e.g. the 7.6" Pixel Fold screen is still only a third of the area of a 13" MacBook (not to mention a desktop).

To people (like me) who want bigger screens, your comment reads akin to "Imagine that you need to grab your phone because you need a 6" screen, now instead you can just flip out a second screen from your Apple Watch and have a 2.5" screen."

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Post by abandonliberty »

lapetitejort wrote: post #144
wffurr wrote: post #119

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>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

Riffing on a comment I saw on one of LinusTechTip's "Switch to Android/Apple" videos: phone users misinterpret familiarity with intuitiveness and polish. Android is "intuitive" to me because I've been using it more than a decade. It's "polished" because I'm blind to the rough edges.

I was really surprised when I first got an iPhone. After all the hype about it being so intuitive and polished, it was just different. Some things better, some things worse.

But Apple devices take a bit longer to go obsolete, and seem just a tiny bit less invasive as they don't rely on an advertising model for revenue.

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