Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

Post by hyperadvanced » Tue, Sep 09, 2025, 2:42 AM UTC

bdangubic wrote: post #143

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OTOH, Cybertruck is one of the only original car designs in modern memory. It’s dumb as hell, but I like it. That said, I have no idea who it’s for, I wouldn’t buy one. But I respect them for designing such a ridiculous vehicle, and for it actually being able to sell, albeit somewhat poorly compared to expectations. I say all of this as a recent $TSLA bear with a healthy short position.

shorting TSLA is never smart because TSLA investors are not driven by any rhyme or reason. Elon is the greatest salesman to ever live and people have been buying his sh*t for decade+ now. if TSLA was a reasonable company investment-wise I would mortgage my house to short the shit out of it :)

Post by sdesol » Tue, Sep 09, 2025, 2:45 AM UTC

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I don't know why we're putting politics aside. I'm sure those political escapades didn't help in cratering their stock. All companies are trying to cut on variety right now. Of course, a software service used daily won't be hit as hard as a mid-class car company. Heck, even the affordable car companies are charging mid tier prices these days. The results are clear if things don't change.

We're putting aside the political stuff because there isn't a lot to discuss. You're either cool with it, or Tesla is completely off the table. And nobody will likely be switching camps at this point.

Post by bdangubic » Tue, Sep 09, 2025, 2:52 AM UTC

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Musk has said he didn't see a market or need for an affordable car, so any reduction in battery cost is just profit for them

Politics aside, Musk is lying there -- or at least telling some people what they want to hear while behaving differently elsewhere .. politics aside. Tesla's received favorable attention for it's "claim" they are (were?) working on a $30k car. And that techno-ideological claim that "all you need for self-driving is a camera" is a cost-savings solution. [ A robotics prof, ( I think at a university in Philadelphia ? )…

Post by protocolture » Tue, Sep 09, 2025, 2:59 AM UTC

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Again, politics aside, I just find the lineup boring. Every model outside the Cybertruck looks like a ten year old car. Even the refresh of the model Y is still reskinning a design language started with the Model S, but with any interesting soul stripped out to reduce cost. The nerd in me loves the technology, particularly behind the scenes features of the Cybertruck like 48v architecture. In the end I want to drive…

This. None of them make me go "Damn, that's a good looking car..." any more than a number of others. The Cybertruck is just am embarrassment, design wise.

Post by ajross » Tue, Sep 09, 2025, 3:05 AM UTC

lgleason wrote: post #45

Boring lineup, Lack of recent innovation, poor repairability and a CEO who has alienated people on both sides of the political isle. The 1 trillion dollar package the board is offering Musk is a joke. They need to find a new CEO.