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The problem isn’t generally the cost, it’s the complexity. You end up having to track who has it installed. Hired 5 more people this week? How many of them will want docker desktop? Oh, we’ve maxed the licenses we bought? Time to re-open the procurement process and amend the purchase order.
Everything is hard in a large company and they have hired teams to manage procurement so this is just you over thinking.
Rather _declaratively_ define configuration with nix. Deploy nixOS to machines (rpi4/5, x86, arm) and vms (proxmox) and manage remotely with nixos-anywhere.
One of these days, I’ll get around to doing a write up.
So, how are you supposed to run the proxy inside the container? Traefik for example? Genuinely curious.
To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!
> On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win! Was this a deal breaker for any company? I ask because the Docker Desktop paid license requirement is quite reasonable. If you have less than 250 employees and make less than $10 million in annual revenue it's free. If you have a dev team of 10 people and are extremely profitable to where you need licenses you'd end up paying $9…
To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem: Podman rocks for me! I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!
> On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win! Was this a deal breaker for any company? I ask because the Docker Desktop paid license requirement is quite reasonable. If you have less than 250 employees and make less than $10 million in annual revenue it's free. If you have a dev team of 10 people and are extremely profitable to where you need licenses you'd end up paying $9…
It can be quite difficult to get this kind of money for such a nominal tool that has a lot of free competition. Docker was very critical a few years ago, but “why not use podman or containerd or…” makes it harder to stand up for.
> Privileged ports in rootless mode not working? Good! That's security working as intended. A reverse proxy setup is a better architecture anyway. So, how are you supposed to run the proxy inside the container? Traefik for example? Genuinely curious.
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> On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win! Was this a deal breaker for any company? I ask because the Docker Desktop paid license requirement is quite reasonable. If you have less than 250 employees and make less than $10 million in annual revenue it's free. If you have a dev team of 10 people and are extremely profitable to where you need licenses you'd end up paying $9…
I think that I never saw somebody using Docker Desktop. I saw running containers with the command line everywhere, but I maybe I did not notice. No licenses for the command line tools, right?
You can run your own VM via any number of tools, or you can use WSL now on Windows, etc etc. But Docker Desktop was one of the first push-button ways to say "I have a Mac and I want to run Docker containers and I don't want to have to moonlight as a VM gardener to do it.
I'm a podman user and fan, but there is one gotcha to know about the systemd integration. You might expect that setting User=foo via systemd would enable seamless rootless containers, but it turns out to be a hard problem without a seamless solution. Instead, there's this discussion thread with 86 comments and counting to wade through to find some solutions that have worked for some people in some cases. https://gith…
User=per-service-user
ExecStart=!podman-wrapper ...
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It doesn't only look prettier, it also starts and works a lot faster. Switched a few years ago; at that time Docker desktop has a known issue of continually using 5% CPU on Mac which they didn't fix for years.
I don't understand why people need a gui for docker/podman.
It's much more than a gui for it supports running k8s locally, managing custom vm instances, resource monitoring of containers, built in local domain name support with ssl mycontainer.orb, a debug shell that gives you ability to install packages that are not available in the image by default, much better and automated volume mounting and view every container in finder, ability to query logs, an amazing ui, plus it is much, much faster and more resource efficient.
I am normally with you that terminal is usually enough, but the above features really do make it worth it especially when using existing services that have complicated failure logs or are resource intensive like redis, postgres, livekit, etc or you have a lot of ports running and want to call your service without having to worry about remembering port numbers or complicated docker network configuration.
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The problem isn’t generally the cost, it’s the complexity. You end up having to track who has it installed. Hired 5 more people this week? How many of them will want docker desktop? Oh, we’ve maxed the licenses we bought? Time to re-open the procurement process and amend the purchase order.
Everything is hard in a large company and they have hired teams to manage procurement so this is just you over thinking.