Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Age verification doesn’t work

pornbiz.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 172 posts

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#151

Post by intothemild »

ghssds wrote: post #131
lordhumphrey wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'internet tax' will not last, either, I fear. Loads of VPNs are simply, someone other than the local ISP gets your data. Mullvad seems trustworthy, as an exception to this, and who else? And even then, Mullvad faces issues from websites and censorious countries trying to block it and bother its users all the time.

What about a VPS and ssh -D ?

Easily blockable. The early days of getting around Netflix was just using a commercial VPN. Then they blocked all those.

Then we transitioned to a VPS and hosting our own VPN.. then they blocked all VPS IP ranges.

What came next was VPNs that were using other people's home connections (either willingly or otherwise)

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#152

Post by ipaddr »

sky2224 wrote: post #147
ipaddr wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of disgusting legal porn exists. Revenge porn is just boring amateur porn that doesn't have consent attached. Both parties may or may not have knowledge of it and someone decides to share after the relationship ends. It's part of their relationship, its a real event that shows a moment of closeness and its an expression of real love. It doesn't interest me but to find you think its so disgusting sounds fake. Pe…

> It doesn't interest me but to find you think its so disgusting sounds fake. Hello! I think it's incredibly disgusting. Uploading intimate videos of your partner (past or present) is an absolute breach of that individual's privacy and trust. Additionally, it absolutely is NOT legal. I think it's quite alarming if someone doesn't find it disgusting.

I guess you are not a fan of Taylor Swift. All of her albums have been revenue porn.

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#153

Post by cindyllm »

ipaddr wrote: post #152
sky2224 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It doesn't interest me but to find you think its so disgusting sounds fake. Hello! I think it's incredibly disgusting. Uploading intimate videos of your partner (past or present) is an absolute breach of that individual's privacy and trust. Additionally, it absolutely is NOT legal. I think it's quite alarming if someone doesn't find it disgusting.

I guess you are not a fan of Taylor Swift. All of her albums have been revenue porn.

[dead]

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#154

Post by lordhumphrey »

ghssds wrote: post #131
lordhumphrey wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'internet tax' will not last, either, I fear. Loads of VPNs are simply, someone other than the local ISP gets your data. Mullvad seems trustworthy, as an exception to this, and who else? And even then, Mullvad faces issues from websites and censorious countries trying to block it and bother its users all the time.

What about a VPS and ssh -D ?

As the other replies allude to, it worked at one stage.

This subjective and lovely history of the Great Firewall of the PRC was posted recently, about the to and fros in the methods of this kind of thing, and is really very good, if you're interested:

https://danglingpointer.fun/posts/GFWHistory

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#155

Post by JackSlateur »

Can anyone be kind enough to explain how this "age verification" works ?

Surely, if this is about "show me an ID", one can grab his parent's

If this is about "show me your face", again this seems stupid at best (how one can detect that this is an adult face, especially between 17 yo vs 19 yo)

So .. how does it work ? And also, does it work ? :)

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#157

Post by scarface_74 »

delusional wrote: post #118
ipaddr wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Sending your government issued id to random porn sites is asking for your identity to be stolen. Sites filter out any child porn because those are different serious laws. I can live with revenge porn because it's really amateur porn labelled another way. Like supporting eco friendly porn where you walk to the hotel instead of drive. Regulating markets where someone unvested group of people decide the rules on wh…

> Yes. Sending your government issued id to random porn sites is asking for your identity to be stolen. Ah, so you don't understand what's being proposed. Let me clear that up. The implementation proposed by the EU does not involve your government issued id, but rather an openid style handoff to a trusted government entity, where you verify your identity with your government, followed by a handback along with a proof…

And then the government knows what sites I visit. There is no such thing as a trusted government entity.

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#158

Post by scarface_74 »

mos_basik wrote: post #128
dragonwriter wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I haven't heard a good explanation for why my proposal is bad other than it's not perfect. It has the same flaw as the common age verification laws: it is unnecessarily intrusive; but I wasn’t, in the grandparent post, commenting on the merits, I was commenting on your description of the proposal as being both very different from what is currently being proposed and “just like buying alcohol or tobacco”, since it i…

>it is nothing like buying alcohol and tobacco The intent of the "I don't crack open a beer.." post was to draw a comparison between "show ID at physical store then later open and drink the beer at home" and "show ID at physical store then later submit the token and watch the porn at home". >and shares the basic features which are different and more intrusive How so? Are you maybe assuming that some entity (the ID is…

> I suppose anything's possible, but that's not how the alcohol system works: when I show ID to purchase alcohol, the cashier looks at it and hands it back to me without recording anything

On the other hand, I bought Pseudoephedrine from a Publix at home when I was living in GA, left it by mistake, flew to Puerto Rico and was denied in a CVS because there is a nationwide database.

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#159

Post by scarface_74 »

29athrowaway wrote: post #37

Age verification will make porn websites go out of business. And this is likely what the legislators truly wanted. Porn is partially protected by the constitution and it is politically impopular to tell people what they can't do.

The state I live in already has age verification. Any site that is not based in the US - including the most popular one - just ignores it. The other sites can be accessed via a VPN.

Re: Age verification doesn’t work

#160

Post by rpdillon »

chmod775 wrote: post #14

While I'll immediately believe their complaints about political shenanigans and publicity stunts going on in the EU commission, this post very obviously intentionally ignores good-faith efforts at building out privacy-preserving age verification using ZKP. They're laying into a strawman - with gusto - when they attack age verification methods that are objectively worse than the commission's best proposal. It's hurtin…

The laws are all being passed and ZKP is nothing more than a proof of concept. The laws are not being passed in good faith, and so I think it's a mistake to think that ZKP will ever be used. The only two systems I've heard of that have actually been deployed to comply with these laws are either face scanning or ID scanning. Neither one is acceptable, but the legislation is passing anyway.
Post reply on HN