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Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

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Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

#151
Here's the play. It's very simple, and it's quite good.

Stripe processes a LOT of money. The customers that get that money need to move it around. Often to banks. Stripe makes no money on that.

Over the last few years, stablecoins have become a preferred means to hold and move money (for convenience, etc).

Stablecoin providers make money on their float -- selling stablecoins means you get free deposits, and risk-free rates are presently around 4%. For every $1M in stablecoins your customers hold, you can make $40k/year. Stablecoin providers like Circle pay about half of that back out to partners that sell the tokens.

Stripe is huge, and well-trusted by customers for handling payments. By adoption stablecoin infrastructure to control financial flows into stablecoins, they can amass huge amounts of stablecoin sales.

If even ~3% of their transaction volume gets held in Stablecoins, and they make 1% a year on that, it's about $1B a year in bottom line.

~$10e9 (daily avg vol) * 365 * 3% (converted to stablecoins) * 1% (net income) = ~$1B

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#152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

when will stripe go public?

They don’t have to go public if they don’t want to. Being a private company is totally fine.

Speaking as a shareholder: It would be kinda swell if they went public though.

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#153

Somebody should start “Killed by Stripe - Stripe Graveyard”[1], because this project soon (several years max) will be featured there. —- 1. https://killedbygoogle.com/

Are there other products they have killed like Google? It’s not really a graveyard if it’s just this project, and we don’t yet know that it will be killed

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#154

I guess domains might not mean as much as they used to, but xyz? To me that's something you get for experiments and one-offs, not something you use for a serious enterprise you want to get people onboard for. I honestly thought this was fake and not from stripe the first time I saw it. (I kinda still do with that domain.)

tld's mean nothing anymore, but they still signal something, and to me .xyz is not a trust-inspiring tld

According to this Krebs article https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/12/why-phishers-love-new-tl... 13% of the xyz domains was related to phishing, not as bad as .top which ahd 30% but still bad.

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

#155
Why not use actual Ethereum as a base layer? If you want speed, build (or use) an L2 on top of it.

I can hardly see any value in "yet another private blockchain" — just use a database, duh.

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post #46

There are lots of crypto skeptics on HN (and we ourselves were disappointed with crypto's payments utility for much of the past decade), so it might be interesting to share what changed our mind over the past couple of years: we started to notice a lot of real-world businesses finding utility in stablecoins. For example, Bridge (a stablecoin orchestration platform that Stripe acquired) is used by SpaceX for managing…

The problem with all that, is the fact it remains possible to create a protocol with N big institutions (governments and large tech companies, big non profit organizations and so forth) signing every block, to create a collaborative system that is perfectly suited for the same task. The system can make progresses as long a given fractions of the participants is available and so forth, there are a number of well known…

> signing every block, to create a collaborative system that is perfectly suited for the same task.

Indeed you can! We even have a name for that! Its called a blockchain.

> This maintains many benefits of the blockchain and lacks many issues (fast, simple, near zero cost, controllable to a given extent -- no takeover possible, ...).

Blockchains can do all of these things.

Perhaps you are thinking of "bitcoin", instead of "blockchains"? Bitcoin, something that was created a whole 17 years ago, indeed has many drawbacks compared to modern blockchains.

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#157
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The folks on Hacker News seem pretty anti-crypto, but I feel like they're missing the point. If we're actually looking for ways to fix the US debt, stablecoins are definitely worth considering

What does it mean to "fix the debt" anyway? The US isn't a household or a person, a country can roll over debt indefinitely.

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The job listing[1] for Rust Engineer at Tempo says > Attributes: High motor What is meant by that? [1] https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/tempo-xyz/aab97703-13e2-42e8-9fb9-9...

Best I can tell it's a sports term that has moved over. Google trends shows sudden peak in activity in just the past few months, so something has made the phrase trendy recently.

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

#159
post #46

There are lots of crypto skeptics on HN (and we ourselves were disappointed with crypto's payments utility for much of the past decade), so it might be interesting to share what changed our mind over the past couple of years: we started to notice a lot of real-world businesses finding utility in stablecoins. For example, Bridge (a stablecoin orchestration platform that Stripe acquired) is used by SpaceX for managing…

The problem with all that, is the fact it remains possible to create a protocol with N big institutions (governments and large tech companies, big non profit organizations and so forth) signing every block, to create a collaborative system that is perfectly suited for the same task. The system can make progresses as long a given fractions of the participants is available and so forth, there are a number of well known…

There's always a comment in any HN blockchain thread where the commenter disproves the need for a blockchain by proposing just to use a blockchain instead.

Re: Stripe Launches L1 Blockchain: Tempo

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post #133
post #46

There are lots of crypto skeptics on HN (and we ourselves were disappointed with crypto's payments utility for much of the past decade), so it might be interesting to share what changed our mind over the past couple of years: we started to notice a lot of real-world businesses finding utility in stablecoins. For example, Bridge (a stablecoin orchestration platform that Stripe acquired) is used by SpaceX for managing…

I don't think SpaceX is that great of a data point

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