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Post by LtWorf »

baq wrote: post #119
gloosx wrote: post #111

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Expensive part is providing the services at loss to get the biggest part of the market, which is the current state of affairs. At some point the market leader will emerge and it will price things according to the actual cost of running this thing + markup, and ALL efforts would be going into squeezing as much profit as possible from the leading position. At the same time usability and quality would not be priority an…

I'm just saying what Anthropic is saying: individual models are printing money. The problem is all the capital needed to get the next model before the previous ones are obsolete; investors capitalize the business because the future models are expected to print even more money, at least a few months ago. It's increasingly obvious that the new models won't print as much money as expected to justify the expenses, but if…

1. They can't stop training

2. I don't trust them anyway that without training they are making money.

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Post by jamesbrek98 »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #15
CyberMacGyver wrote: post #11

At this rate it’s better to start a company and get aquihired vs applying and getting hired. Seems like OpenAI speed ran through the Facebook phase and are out of ideas

Au contraire, based on their recent hires, they're just beginning their Facebook phase. Expect to see a lot of ads 2 years from now, and expect to see a LOT of money being made by the company a year after that. If they can maintain runway until then.

OpenAI already runs ads on Instagram for its ChatGPT app, advertising what it can do for you and your day to day things.

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Post by jamesbrek98 »

joaogui1 wrote: post #23
dfsegoat wrote: post #19

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> Expect to see a lot of ads 2 years from now I think I am just slow today - but could you please elaborate?

Ads on ChatGPT as a way to extract more money from users

They are next. Perplexity's Comet browser tracks the ** out of you already because ads.

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Post by ants_everywhere »

cutemonster wrote: post #144
ants_everywhere wrote: post #61

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This is true, but it doesn't go far enough. Google could serve you ads, like LLMs will. But LLMs can be used to astroturf internet spaces. Which means they allow everyone the ability to serve ads and manipulate. It's no longer just limited to the company providing the original service.

I think they'd inject ads during training (too). You and everyone cannot do that; Google can.

why would they inject ads during training?

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Post by dfsegoat »

bobbiechen wrote: post #34
dfsegoat wrote: post #19

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> Expect to see a lot of ads 2 years from now I think I am just slow today - but could you please elaborate?

I wrote about this idea here: https://digitalseams.com/blog/the-ai-lifestyle-subsidy-is-go... Quick summary, I believe consumer AI experiences will feature ads because the profit opportunity is too large and company valuations depend on it. The hiring of Fidji Simo (ads at Facebook) at OpenAI + and just this week, Vijaye Raji/Statsig also point that way.

Very good catch. For all my interest this space, it's embarrassing that I did not remotely see this coming...

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Post by holoduke »

lazystar wrote: post #90
holoduke wrote: post #58

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I see mcps from ebay alike coming to openai.

ooo charge advertisers for % of time that their mcp context is influencing the response that gets generated. insiiidious. you wouldnt even know it was an ad.

Exactly. Definitely coming.

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Post by hdjrudni »

torginus wrote: post #138
DrScientist wrote: post #128

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I do wonder whether we will switch back to ads or there is/will be a big switch to the subscription type model. Would you trust output from OpenAI which is sponsered? I mean it's bad enough now in the ad space where they are increasingly trying to make the ads look more like content - imagine that in woven into your ChatGPT output? The younger generation are quite used to subscription models - netflix, spotify, vario…

The problem with charging more for subscription is they have like 5 competitors who can give you the same thing, and charging more is giving them an open opportunity to trade revenue for market share if you undercut them. I think they're realizing what most capitalists have realized - if you don't own the whole value chain, you don't own the value. I bet Alex won't have a dropdown to switch to Claude Sonnet for very…

> I bet Alex won't have a dropdown to switch to Claude Sonnet for very long.

> We plan to continue service for existing users, but will stop new downloads of the app on October 1st. As long as you have the app installed, our plan is to continue serving you. But there won’t be any new features released.

Sounds like there won't be an Alex at all after very long.

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Post by commakozzi »

emehex wrote: post #9
liurenju wrote: post #6

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absolutely no. Alex is heavily optimized for xcode. If you work on an ios project that has more than 700 files, you'll understand how accurate it captures the context.

If your iOS project has more than 700 files... you might be doing it wrong?

and a thousand lines of code? oh my? whatever shall we do?
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