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When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by michaelt »

noirscape wrote: post #116
hmartin wrote: post #109

But the real question... what will happen with .io TLD? (British Indian Ocean Territory's)

It should eventually get removed by ICANN, since the country code TLDs are managed by ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 (it's however not an exact match), and the transfer will mean the British Indian Ocean Territories will no longer exist. ISO is going to be the entity in charge of removing the io country code, which it probably will do since ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 isn't just used for domain names. There's a standardized process for t…

> That said, it's unlikely that the entity currently managing .io (a hedge fund if I'm not mistaken) has the legal muscle to force ICANN to keep it in the list

ICANN periodically lets anyone with $1 million create random new generic TLDs like .top and .win and .google and .hiv and .amazon and .zip - it's pretty clear there aren't any real rules or standards for TLDs apart from having money.

Why should ICANN break things for .io and its users, when they could instead keep things working, and extract $1M from a hedge fund, at the same time?

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

awesome_dude wrote: post #138
ebonnafoux wrote: post #117

The sun does not set on the French Empire is still alive with french Guyanna in South America, Mayotte and la Réunion in Africa and New Caledonia and French Polynesia in Pacific Ocean.

The indigenous people of New Caledonia are currently in a deep battle (politically) with the French colonialists for the governance of the lands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_New_Caledonia_unrest

Over simplification.

By that argument, Americans can leave the US right now and give it back to the original inhabitants of the country.

Various parties want more autonomy in New Caledonia which France is more than ready to give. The process is somewhat sabotaged by a tiny group of Marxist but it is moving in the right direction.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

rschiavone wrote: post #146
noirscape wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should eventually get removed by ICANN, since the country code TLDs are managed by ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 (it's however not an exact match), and the transfer will mean the British Indian Ocean Territories will no longer exist. ISO is going to be the entity in charge of removing the io country code, which it probably will do since ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 isn't just used for domain names. There's a standardized process for t…

There is a lot of money to be made from the .io domain. My guess is that it will continue to exist as some kind of gTLD. Google already treats it like that.

It'll stay grandfathered like .su which has essentially no reason to still exist.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by awesome_dude »

StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #152
awesome_dude wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The indigenous people of New Caledonia are currently in a deep battle (politically) with the French colonialists for the governance of the lands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_New_Caledonia_unrest

Over simplification. By that argument, Americans can leave the US right now and give it back to the original inhabitants of the country. Various parties want more autonomy in New Caledonia which France is more than ready to give. The process is somewhat sabotaged by a tiny group of Marxist but it is moving in the right direction.

Take a better look at Fiji - the indigenous people there have been outnumbered by the people bought into the country from India (by the English)

The Fijians have had multiple coup, and changes to their constitution to ensure that only indigenous people can run the country

Whether I agree with that or not is beside the point, the point is that what you claim is false, what can happen has happened elsewhere, and where things end up is very much determined by whether or not the "sun is setting on the French empire"

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by seszett »

capitainenemo wrote: post #82

Hm. I feel like the french republic can still make the claim though, at least according to this wikipedia map. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Mapadefr...

I measured it a while ago (well, 11 years now) and both France and the UK made the cut[0].

France has much more margin though, IIRC no single territory becoming independent would make the sun set on France.

[0]https://ssz.fr/sun-never-sets/

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by toast0 »

bee_rider wrote: post #76
ozim wrote: post #75

As an outsider I consider Canada and Australia - British Empire. Hard to think otherwise as they have the same king.

Does their king have any more hard powers in Canada or Australia than, say, Taylor Swift or some other rich celebrity?

If by 'their king', you mean 'the king of England'. No, the king of England holds no power in Canada or Australia. However, the king of Canada holds limited power in Canada, and happens to be the same person as the king of England, and it's expected that that will continue as all countries that share that monarch have agreed to the same rules of succession.

Constitutionally, the king of Canada is the commander in chief of its armed forces, provides consent or assent to all laws passed by Parliament, has some immunity from prosecution, and has a pardon power. In actual practice, most of those powers are performed perfunctorily by delegates based on either action by Parliament or by recommendation of ministers determined by the Prime Minister.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by ineedaj0b »

I’ve been really sad getting older and having so much more context on Britain. My family weirdly had access to all of British TV in US growing up and they had fantastic programs.

Now, I feel they are a joke. They seem like a strong example of what absolutely not to do. Their cultural exports have sunk. The arrested citizens for social media posts seems draconian. The economy barely hanging on.

I understand the Media has a bias and they been hitting the UK hard since Brexit (liberals think it ended the world) and now even conservative/alternative media hates UK for the pro-immigration stances.

With all that said even trying very hard to find things to like about the UK in a neutral way (I am a fan of PG, who I assume makes very smart decisions) I think the country is completely toast. Worse off than SPAIN! I never had a high opinion of Spain but it looks more likely to outgrow its troubles than the UK.

Prince Andrew and Kate seem nice. The British countryside seems nice. But what else will these people ever be capable of again?

When I read or interact with Britains irl I lump them in one of the lowest buckets for intellectual conversation. Does anyone have any hope for Britain to share or at least data to tell me I’m wrong about the UK?

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by actionfromafar »

michaelt wrote: post #151
noirscape wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should eventually get removed by ICANN, since the country code TLDs are managed by ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 (it's however not an exact match), and the transfer will mean the British Indian Ocean Territories will no longer exist. ISO is going to be the entity in charge of removing the io country code, which it probably will do since ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 isn't just used for domain names. There's a standardized process for t…

> That said, it's unlikely that the entity currently managing .io (a hedge fund if I'm not mistaken) has the legal muscle to force ICANN to keep it in the list ICANN periodically lets anyone with $1 million create random new generic TLDs like .top and .win and .google and .hiv and .amazon and .zip - it's pretty clear there aren't any real rules or standards for TLDs apart from having money. Why should ICANN break thi…

Aren’t two letter codes reserved for countries though IIRC.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by fakedang »

throawaywpg wrote: post #145
sys_64738 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember asking this question to a work colleague from India almost 30 years ago. I asked something like if he hated the Brits for invading his land. He said on the contrary. They advanced their people so rapidly and efficiently through education and technical advances that would have taken hundreds of years by themselves. He said this allowed them to kick the British out once they had outlived their usefulness. Or…

Some Indians benefitted, but the vast majority suffered.

Special mention: the Partition.

But then again, without the British, there wouldn't have been a unified India but a multitude of states, sort of resembling the EU (in the best case). Worst case scenario, mini Africa.

Having a common hated enemy did have its benefits.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by crazygringo »

fakedang wrote: post #149
wolvesechoes wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is always funny to ask people what country has the longest land border with France.

For those wondering, it's Brazil.

> The Franco-Spanish border runs for 685.42 kilometres (425.90 mi) between southwestern France and northeastern Spain. [1]

> The Brazil–France border is the line, located in the Amazon Rainforest, that limits the territories of Brazil and France. The border is located between the Brazilian state of Amapá and French Guiana. It is 730 kilometres (450 mi) in length. [2]

I'll be damned!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France–Spain_border

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil–France_border

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