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How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

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Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#151
post #75

I find the the Dutch Bauhaus website ridiculously unnecessary: https://nl.bauhaus

This is really interesting, as the chain uses bauhaus.info here in Germany, presumably because the .de and .com domains were already taken, but they didn't bother to register de.bauhaus.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#152
post #3

> The Ismaili Imamat is a supra-national entity, representing the succession of Imams since the time of the Prophet Muhammad. ( https://ismaili.imamat/#introduction ) The Aga Khan is the leader of the Ismaili Imamat. They have as good a claim to a TLD as Berlin, if not more.

However, "imamat" by itself is a generic term, so it's not clear why it should be controlled by a single organization that happens to have it in the name.

And indeed, the KSA rep has opposed it:

https://slate.com/technology/2012/08/icann-top-level-domain-...

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#154
post #94

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What if there are two people named John Smith? Or two restaurants called Main Street Diner? Or two towns named Springfield?

Same situation when two people named John Smith want the same john-smith.com domain now. You may argue that in the current situation, if they are from different countries like US and Canada, they would obtain john-smith.us and john-smith.ca respectively. But in the proposed situation, they can also get john-smith-us and john-smith-ca

But who gets john-smith?

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#155
post #40

Presumably way the same as .google and all the other special-purpose organization-specific domains. Blame ICANN for allowing any public or private organization who can meet the requirements to buy and operate a gTLD back in 2012: https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/global-support/faqs... And as per another comment in this thread, they’re doing another round of this in 2026: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…

The fact that private entities can monopolize gTLDs, including words that aren't even made-up or reasonably copy-written (e.g. the MAN group in Europe owns .man) was an embarrassing and dishonorable decision by ICANN. I'm all for having tons of weird, awesome gTLDs, and I'm even for brand-specific gTLDs like .google, but the cost these entities should incur by asking for one to be created is: Anyone can use it. 1. A…

Nah. Don’t make it complicated. Open the root zone to everyone, we don’t need suffixes anymore other than for leeches to make money. Distribute the responsibility for the root zone, kill off the pest that is the TLD industry once and for all. Domain owners can pay a uniform flat fee to IANA shared among all participating entities that keep the infrastructure up. Everyone can have their own, freely choosable TLD. Trademark holders have a right to claim, with some dispute process similar to what we have now.

It would be glorious.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#156
post #129

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With some exceptions (.gov, .edu, for example), it has never actually meant anything. Anyone can register a .com, .net, or .org for any purpose.

I thought com/net/org had distinct use cases until the early 1990s when it became a free-for-all.

That was the idea, but from my memory, people chose their own meaning and conventions pretty much from the start. So much about the internet was envisioned with a completely different use case than what it actually was used for, it’s amazing things even kinda worked out in the end.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#157
post #26

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DNS allows search so we really should have started rejecting everything that isn't qualified with an end dot as punishment to ICANN.. Instead random common names might be treated differently on every network to make sure these people can't issue certs that will be trusted for them in your own network, etc. Now prioratizing unambiguos naming would be somewhat acceptable if ICANN was tacobell and just a steward of nami…

Hot take: TLDs should not exist but parking domains should not be allowed.

With AI churning out a pretend blog or news site or web shop in a few minutes, that would be hard to enforce. I’m with you on the necessary death to TLDs, though.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#158
post #83

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I've done plenty of interesting things but a distributed correction attempt for ICANN's incompetence is never going to be adequate. You can read their own work on gTLDs in the past to know they understand this.

Accusing ICANN of incompetence when you can't be bothered to configure your DNS to avoid leaking queries to the root is an interesting approach.

There's no leak being discussed. Everyone in the world sets resolving and it is what it is with the current TLDs when ICANN needs more coke money they possibly break every node in the world and a distributed group of thousands has to look if something bad happened.

There is the argument that ICANN should no longer be consulted ever by nodes of consequence but that is an argument that they have failed 100% in their responsibilities.

If you don't care at all about zone delegation and global resolution then you obviously don't have an opinion on how to evaluate ICANNs stewardship of global domain delegation.

We have run out if IPv4 addresses but there is NAT is not a satisfying answer to start. But we have let ICANN polute naming so let's implement shadow naming everywhere is an even less satisfactory answer.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#159

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You seem to be missing that trademarks are generally context specific E.g. Apple has a trademark in the context of technology but not in the context of farming Whereas gTLDs are flat namespace

Ok, good point. I assumed global trademarks but yes trademarks are nation based. Should then only multi-national organisations be allowed to obtain gTLDs? Obviously the ICANN price tag of USD227k is also a good entry barrier.

The problem isn’t that trademarks are country-based but that trademarks are business area based. You can have multiple trademarks for the same word for different companies if the companies do different things. Apple doesn’t have the right to prevent you from using the word „apple“ to sell lawn mowers.

Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?

#160
post #81

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https://global.canon/en/c-museum/ Canon does use .canon for a few things, at least.

Brother has a similar global website. https://global.brother/

Anything to help them win the fight against HP, I’m for.
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