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They even removed some near fuel tanks. In the past the missing tiles were in less critical areas. I'm surprised they didn't take less risks just to avoid a narrative of failure.
Does it really seem like Elon cares about public opinion at this point?
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> Saturn V was launched 13 times in total. Starship is already 75% of the way there Apollo 1 - lost on the launch pad, crew killed. very bad Apollo 13 - major malfunction causing loss of mission but crew saved. very not bad Starship - 10 launches 5 failures. No crew ever so that pressure is also not comparable. Are we really claiming Starship has achieved 75% of the results of Apollo? That's absolutely ludicrous
Starship is 75% of the way to 13 launches. That's just mathematically correct.
Not one of these triumphant 75% achievement in launch numbers would have had a surviving human. Apollo had 0 practice runs. Starship is nothing but practice runs. To equate the number of launches to something so drastically different is just an exercise in futility that I can only assume you're trolling
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That is a super bad take and we will probably both get flagged and rightly so (in fact I will even flag myself to get this off HN faster if it’s not deemed helpful) but your attempted slur deserves a response. The parties opposed to child rape and unreasonable levels of immigration in Europe get called far right because they do scoop up a few far right supporters. But that’s unfair given the alternatives. HN really i…
Flagging your comment as well because AFD is definitely not a "few far right supporters".
The issue isn't being against child rape and unreasonable levels of immigration. The issue is that the people who are against that are all liars and charlatans, just like in United States, where the party of moral righteousness and small government is full of child molesters and currently doing some pretty authoritarian shit.
Just because a problem isn't getting addressed as fast as one hopes doesn't mean that one should completely jump ship to literally anyone who offers support for your cause.
It was a significant progress, but I won't call it "nailed it". As there was an damage or explosion on re-entry where the skirt of the starship got damaged. And we could see pretty significant damage on one of the fins. Nailing it would be without the things above.
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I'm confused -- how is it meaningful to compare the cost of Starship test flights with operational Saturn V missions?
There were no Saturn V test flights like Starship is doing, that I can find info on. Wikipedia lists 3 tests before Apollo 4, which was the first full launch.
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Starship is 75% of the way to 13 launches. That's just mathematically correct.
And is absolutely useless. Apollo 9-17 went to the moon with human occupants. All but one put men on the surface of the moon. They all returned to Earth with zero fatally exploding ships. Not one of these triumphant 75% achievement in launch numbers would have had a surviving human. Apollo had 0 practice runs. Starship is nothing but practice runs. To equate the number of launches to something so drastically differen…
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They were talking about Falcon 9, which is absolutely being reused.
Alright, if we're talking about Falcon 9, I don't know what the cost savings are for a reusable rocket, or if there are any. If someone has that data, feel free to provide it.
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They even removed some near fuel tanks. In the past the missing tiles were in less critical areas. I'm surprised they didn't take less risks just to avoid a narrative of failure.
Does it really seem like Elon cares about public opinion at this point?
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They were talking about Falcon 9, which is absolutely being reused.
Alright, if we're talking about Falcon 9, I don't know what the cost savings are for a reusable rocket, or if there are any. If someone has that data, feel free to provide it.
From wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9#Pricing
> Mars rocket
Very dubious. If you disregard all the SpaceX marketting talk and just go by what they're building, then it's a rocket meant for launching very large satellite constellations as cheap as possible.