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Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by Tepix »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #112
sbuttgereit wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's surprising is that people are still resorting to this silly complaint about not reaching orbit when there's a perfectly sensible complain they could be making instead: that SpaceX hasn't yet demonstrated that they can reach orbit and return safely. The safe return is important because I would expect a failure to return safely to be a big deal: it's not like this thing is going to completely burn up if they don…

Starship returned safely. Safe return of orbital generally means a splashdown within 1500 miles of Point Nemo. They just demonstrated that they can splash down within meters of their target buoy. Even if the flaps failed completely they still would have been far less than 1500 miles off target.

Point nemo is in the Pacific Ocean, it landed in the Indian Ocean.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by Dig1t »

rsyring wrote: post #142

Anyone know the best way to get the SpaceX video from Twitter/X onto Apple TV? My current method is to screen share from an iPad after starting the video on Safari. Trying to Airplay gave me audio but not video on the TV. But, the screen share has a pretty large letterbox around it, was hoping to get full screen video.

Yeah Airplay is probably the best option, I had no problems playing it from my Macbook.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by doug713705 »

monero-xmr wrote: post #136
bombcar wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a moment of abject horror, fascination, wonder, surprise, and pride when you suddenly recognize yourself in your children; a moment, a word, even just a holding of the head and you're staring into a mirror ...

It is a complete shift in world view. In BC (before children) you lived one way, then in AD (after delivery) you live another. Complete and utter change in priorities, outlook, experience, meaning, fundamental shift that those without children cannot understand

And people with children cannot understand what it is to live a whole life in full freedom. I'm over 50 years old and I fully love my life as it is and have never regretted my choice of not having children (and never will).

Not that my choice is suitable for everybody, but the most common choice is not suitable for everybody either.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by np1810 »

rsyring wrote: post #142

Anyone know the best way to get the SpaceX video from Twitter/X onto Apple TV? My current method is to screen share from an iPad after starting the video on Safari. Trying to Airplay gave me audio but not video on the TV. But, the screen share has a pretty large letterbox around it, was hoping to get full screen video.

> Anyone know the best way to get the SpaceX video from Twitter/X onto Apple TV?

I don't have Apple TV but for videos on X, I download it temporarily to a intermediate server then stream using VLC [1] it's a hassle but I get great watching experience on all platforms. For now, you can stream this on VLC: https://bin.hrzn.pics/0AdLye8

Though I generally watch Everyday Astronaut's [2] coverage on YouTube.

[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vlc-media-player/id650377962

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtUMt0gsqrs

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

dotnet00 wrote: post #75
rlt wrote: post #69

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They mentioned in the stream they were intentionally stressing the ship on reentry. But yes, “rapid reusability” is a ways off. I expect they’ll be spending weeks inspecting and repairing ship and booster before reflight for a few years, but they’ll drive it down over time. TBD how “rapid” the reusability ends up being in the end.

The push for rapid reusability seems somewhat at odds with the push for large scale production of ships. It seems like if they can get boosters to rapid reuse (a much easier goal), and churn out ships at sufficient scale, they can afford to take time inspecting/refurbing each ship as part of a pipelined approach.

> rapid reusability seems somewhat at odds with the push for large scale production of ships

As you say, they reïnforce each other by speeding up the learning curve and deployment of learning to the real world, serving as both a bolstering of the product and experimental validation.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by oska »

relwin wrote: post #147
oska wrote: post #119

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What's the need for tile waterproofing ?

Thunderf00t shows various tile problems with Starship: https://youtu.be/MZUQe38SJIs?si=QAVIk7fMX1HIQETb (he's not a fan of Musk)

Mildly interesting to be exposed to the world of 'YouTube engineers' who are derisory of the real-world engineering success of SpaceX. Informed criticism is fine but when you're just openly calling a world class engineering company 'stupid' then you deserve to be ignored (except, obviously, by everyone suffering from MDS).

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by hliyan »

erulabs wrote: post #5

Unbelievable! Watched with my 4 year old, he was full of questions about why the ocean was turning to nighttime, what satellites are, about going to another planet, about the earth being so blue and if we “ever even knew that before”. Just wonderful stuff. So excited for the future.

This is the same age when I started watching Star Trek (original series). To say it had a profound impact on my interest in science and ethics is an understatement. English wasn't even my first language, but I think I picked up a lot of the themes, and my interest in science, tech and ethical philosophy continues to this day. I actually wrote this bit about introducing children to Star Trek (answer is a bit dated now): https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/6719/what-is-the-r...

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by holoduke »

doug713705 wrote: post #153
monero-xmr wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a complete shift in world view. In BC (before children) you lived one way, then in AD (after delivery) you live another. Complete and utter change in priorities, outlook, experience, meaning, fundamental shift that those without children cannot understand

And people with children cannot understand what it is to live a whole life in full freedom. I'm over 50 years old and I fully love my life as it is and have never regretted my choice of not having children (and never will). Not that my choice is suitable for everybody, but the most common choice is not suitable for everybody either.

I can understand. I have 4 small kids. The amount of freetime us near zero. I can sometimes envy your life

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

dotnet00 wrote: post #67
pram wrote: post #62

Are the tiles on Starship going to need replacing after flight like the Shuttle? There isn’t a permanent material that can handle all the heat yet? Serious question, my space expertise is only from KSP.

The intention is to need minimal to no replacement between flights. Part of the purpose of these tests is to figure out how to do that. The tiles themselves work fine, but how to best mount them? where do you need them? Can you make them thinner? do you need anything underneath? what kind of gap do you need between tiles? Those are the things they're hoping to understand in these tests. The Shuttle tiles were technic…

> Shuttle tiles were technically reusable

Would note that Shuttle tiles were never mass manufactured. The Shuttle’s shape meant lots of unique tiles. And its lack of mass production meant each tile was basically an artisanal object.

SpaceX aims to reüse tiles over many flights. But even if some tiles need replacing after each launch, that doesn’t tank Starship per se.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by vaxman »

bombcar wrote: post #134
monero-xmr wrote: post #109

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My kids learning to ride a bike - the moment you release your hand for the first time and they just go and go. When my son learned checkers, and then when he beat me the first time. When my daughter told her first original joke at a family dinner and everyone died laughing. The moments truly never stop. Every single day they amaze and surprise you, fill you with so much love and joy and appreciation. One time Bill Ga…

There's a moment of abject horror, fascination, wonder, surprise, and pride when you suddenly recognize yourself in your children; a moment, a word, even just a holding of the head and you're staring into a mirror ...

Do your kids have Social Security Numbers yet? Let's ask Elon to use his privileged mode on xAI to have it characterize their socio economic relations among all Americans that have existed since The Great Deal, shall we?
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