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Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by ThrowMeAway1618 »

defrost wrote: post #111
ThrowMeAway1618 wrote: post #103

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I'll have the black pudding. My cat has a black tail. The top of my desk is black. I have several pairs of black shoes. Every single computer in my possession has a black case. My phone and its case are both black. Black Power![0][1][2] I will put you on my personal blacklist. Which I'm sure you won't mind since I'm a huge bigot, right? [0] https://www.britannica.com/topic/Black-Power-Movement [1] https://en.wikipedi…

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If your shallow (and dismissive) comments along these lines weren't so, well, shallow and dismissive, I might be inclined to put a little more effort into it.

But they're not, so I didn't.

By all means, congratulate yourself for putting this bigoted "culture warrior" in their (obviously) well deserved corner of shame.

I'm not exactly sure how decrying bigotry while pointing out that demanding language unrelated to such bigotry be changed seems performative rather than useful or effective is a "childish culture war provocation."

Perhaps you might ask some folks who actually experience such bigotry how they feel about that. Are there any such folks in your social circle? I'm guessing not, as they'd likely be much more concerned with the actual violence, discrimination and hatred that's being heaped upon them, rather than inane calls for banning technical jargon completely unrelated to that violence and hatred.

It's completely performative and does exactly zero to address the violence and discrimination. Want to help? Demand that police stop assaulting and murdering people of color. Speak out about the completely unjustified hatred and discrimination our fellow humans are subjected to in housing, employment, education, full participation in political life, the criminal "justice" system and a raft of other issues.

But that's too much work for you, right? It's much easier to pay lip service and jump on anyone who doesn't toe the specific lines you set, despite those lines being performative, ineffective and broadly hypocritical.

Want to make a real difference? That's great! Whinging about blacklists vs. denylists in a network routing context isn't going to do that.

Rather it just points at you being a busybody trying to make yourself feel better at the expense of those actively being discriminated against.

And that's why I didn't engage on any reasonable level with you -- because you don't deserve it. For shame!

Or did I miss something important? I am, after all, quite simple minded.

Perhaps you could explain it to me?

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by pabs3 »

johnisgood wrote: post #123
sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #38

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There's some weird ones you'd never think of that originate an inordinate amount of bad traffic. Like Seychelles. A tiny little island nation in the middle of the ocean inhabited by... bots apparently? Cyprus is another one. Re: China, their cloud services seem to stretch to Singapore and beyond. I had to blacklist all of Alibaba Cloud and Tencent and the ASNs stretched well beyond PRC borders.

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Which site is it?

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by lxgr »

closewith wrote: post #68
lxgr wrote: post #45

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As long as your customer base never travels and needs support, sure, I guess. The only way of communicating with such companies are chargebacks through my bank (which always at least has a phone number reachable from abroad), so I’d make sure to account for these.

Chargebacks aren't the panacea you're used to outside the US, so that's a non-issue.

Only if your bank isn't competent in using them.

Visa/Mastercard chargeback rules largely apply worldwide (with some regional exceptions, but much less than many banks would make you believe).

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by johnisgood »

pabs3 wrote: post #152
johnisgood wrote: post #123

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Which site is it?

My own shitty personal website that is so uninteresting that I do not even wish to disclose here. Hence my lack of understanding of the down-votes for me doing what works for my OWN shitty website, well, server.

In fact, I bet it would choke on a small amount of traffic from here considering it has a shitty vCPU with 512 MB RAM.

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by [deleted] »

dmesg wrote: post #141
phito wrote: post #134

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My friend has a small public gitea instance, only use by him a a few friends. He's getting thousounds of requests an hour from bots. I'm sorry but even if it does not impact his service, at the very least it feels like harassment

Yes and it makes reading your logs needlessly harder. Sometimes I find an odd password being probed, search for it on the web and find an interesting story, that a new backdoor was discovered in a commercial appliance. In that regard reading my logs led me sometimes to interesting articles about cyber security. Also log flooding may result in your journaling service truncating the log and you miss something important…

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Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by bob1029 »

phito wrote: post #134
bob1029 wrote: post #132

I think a lot of really smart people are letting themselves get taken for a ride by the web scraping thing. Unless the bot activity is legitimately hammering your site and causing issues (not saying this isn't happening in some cases), then this mostly amounts to an ideological game of capture the flag. The difference being that you'll never find their flag. The only thing you win by playing is lost time. The best wa…

My friend has a small public gitea instance, only use by him a a few friends. He's getting thousounds of requests an hour from bots. I'm sorry but even if it does not impact his service, at the very least it feels like harassment

Thousands of requests per hour? So, something like 1-3 per second?

If this is actually impacting perceived QoS then I think a gitea bug report would be justified. Clearly there's been some kind of a performance regression.

Just looking at the logs seems to be an infohazard for many people. I don't see why you'd want to inspect the septic tanks of the internet unless absolutely necessary.

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by lxgr »

throwawayffffas wrote: post #87
lxgr wrote: post #69

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This is based on personal experience. At least two did not let me unsubscribe from abroad in the past.

Not letting you unsubscribe and blocking your IP are very different things. There are some that do not provide services in most countries but Netflix, Disney, paramount are pretty much global operations. HBO and peacock might not be available in Europe but I am guessing they are in Canada.

> Not letting you unsubscribe and blocking your IP are very different things.

How so? They did not let me unsubscribe via blocking my IP.

Instead of being able to access at least my account (if not the streaming service itself, which I get – copyright and all), I'd just see a full screen notice along the lines of "we are not available in your market, stay tuned".

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by dotancohen »

Xiol32 wrote: post #144
snickerbockers wrote: post #135

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Lmao I came here to post this. My personal server was making constant hdd grinding noises before I banned the entire nation of China. I only use this server for jellyfin and datahoarding so this was all just logs constantly rolling over from failed ssh auth attempts (PSA: always use public-key, don't allow root, and don't use really obvious usernames like "webadmin" or ).

Changing the SSH port also helps cut down the noise, as part of a layered strategy.

Are you familiar with port knocking? My servers will only open port 22, or some other port, after two specific ports have been knocked on in order. It completely eliminates the log files getting clogged.

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by johnnyfaehell »

bob1029 wrote: post #132

I think a lot of really smart people are letting themselves get taken for a ride by the web scraping thing. Unless the bot activity is legitimately hammering your site and causing issues (not saying this isn't happening in some cases), then this mostly amounts to an ideological game of capture the flag. The difference being that you'll never find their flag. The only thing you win by playing is lost time. The best wa…

While we may be smart, a lot of us are extremely pedantic about tech things. I think for many if they did nothing it would wind them up the wall while doing something the annoyance is smaller.

Re: Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me

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Post by azthecx »

Xiol32 wrote: post #144
snickerbockers wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lmao I came here to post this. My personal server was making constant hdd grinding noises before I banned the entire nation of China. I only use this server for jellyfin and datahoarding so this was all just logs constantly rolling over from failed ssh auth attempts (PSA: always use public-key, don't allow root, and don't use really obvious usernames like "webadmin" or ).

Changing the SSH port also helps cut down the noise, as part of a layered strategy.

Did you really notice a significant drop off in connection attempts? I tried this some years ago and after a few hours on a random very high port number I was already seeing connections.
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