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Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Why would anyone support this knowing how it went the last time? Eric isn't in this because he want you to have a better watch, he is in this so he can sell you out at the first opportunity. It may not be FitBit or Automattic this time, but that's just what he does.

aren't they going with open source firmware / OS this time around? even if it gets sold, user support will be possible

I sure hope so : Android was still a reasonable option for the old Pebbles, but not any more...

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#152

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What is not e-ink? GP said that Garmin is AMOLED and according to [0] pebbles are e-ink/e-paper. Can you clarify? Otherwise I agree. I would love an opensource fitness watch though, but I understand why this is not (yet?) possible. [0] https://store.repebble.com/

e-ink is not a synonym of e-paper. Reflective LCDs are a type of e-paper.

To clarify, e-ink is e-paper, but e-paper is not necessarily e-ink (there are other technologies).

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What is the use-case now in 2025 for an e-ink watch? I have a Garmin Epix pro gen 2 which gets about a month of battery life and has a gorgeous AMOLED, has profiles for pretty much every sport ever invented, incredibly accurate GPS tracking, all day HR-tracking, ECG etc. I understand it's about 4x the price, but there's also lower-end Garmin's that are about 2x the price with the same screen, slightly less features a…

Garmins are incredibly expensive and not everyone wants a fitness tracker. Garmin's UX is also very disjointed between devices for how expensive they are. Plus, battery life tends to be garbage for smartwatches. I just sold my Apple Watch for a Coros because I was tired of trading battery life for features I didn't want/use and Garmins also require yet another subscription for some features. As someone who just spent…

I want to join in with a Garmin rant. I also made the switch to a Coros after owning 3 Garmin watches. Each Garmin seemed to last almost exactly 3 years before abruptly dying. Each time I wanted to buy essentially the same watch only to find the new watches had more features and a higher price. The last round the "upgrade" more smart watch features, fewer sport watch features, and less battery life. The lower priced watches were always carefully missing select features that I wanted. I was doing triathlons which I guess Garmin thought they could coerce me into buying separate bike/run/swimming devices or paying 3-4X to get that extra 4mm of screen to show an extra data field. Garmin priced and segmented themselves out of a customer.

The new Pebble is very similar to the Coros Pace but without the GPS but with hackability and that makes me very interested.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

#154

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Is having a sensor on the watch substantially better than just retrieving the UV index for your location and time of day?

Yeah because it tells you (I presume ) your actual UV rating in terms of exposure, and not just semi-useless "hey it's sunny out!" Yep we know the UV is high on sunny days but how much UV have I had so far?

The Apple Watch (and other smartwatches) probably could estimate UV exposure seeing as it has both a light sensor, used to estimate daylight time; and constantly updated UV weather information.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of interest, what is the benefit of GPS on your watch if you already have it on your phone?

With a GPS (GNSS) receiver on the watch you can get instant position and speed data without having to maintain a stable Bluetooth connection to the phone. Some athletes prefer to record activities on a watch without having to bring a phone. And in certain races, such as most sanctioned triathlons, phones aren't allowed on the course at all.

Sounds like a use case for a fitness watch, not a Pebble.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

#156
Preordered! I'm so excited; I had a pebble way back in the day and I remember liking the vibe of it way more than any Apple Watch/fitbit I've owned since. It feels the closest to the watch I would make if I made watches.

Where might I find the SDK or developer docs for how to make apps for this thing?

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

#157

I'm surprised more hasn't been made of the difference in screen resolution between this device and other Pebbles (and even the "new" Pebble 2 Duo). Old watchfaces and apps are not going to render without black borders, and given the niche market and limited run of this new model, it doesn't seem likely to attract much in the way of developer attention, so a healthy marketplace of new faces/apps may not surface. If I…

You'd be surprised how many of the old devs are coming out of the woodwork to fix their old watchfaces and apps. It seems like a lot of people who were excited enough about Pebble in the past to develop apps seem to still be excited about it.

Plus, it's not particularly difficult to support the bigger screen size in the SDK.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

#158

Lack of GPS is the dealbreaker for me. Otherwise this would be an insta purchase -- I bought the Time in 2014, and was hoping for a "smartstrap" with GPS back then, but when it never came I slightly lost interest.

Just out of interest, what is the benefit of GPS on your watch if you already have it on your phone?

Running without a phone.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

#159
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Looks great! The very first Pebble was actually instrumental in building digitalocean - I met them at MLH hackathon at CalTech and forced one of the founders to sell me a demo unit- all I used it for was notifications on the digitalocean twitter and outages pushed from slack, I tried to reply to every single tweet at us immediately. A little memento of when I hired Mikeal Rogers: https://s.h4x.club/4guEJN95 Funny, no…

Agreed. I'd kill for a watch that you could hold all notifications until you decided to receive them all, ideally at a slow pace over a period of time. For now, I disable notifications but it's a shame I can't access them when I'm ready to do so. I have hopes for this pebble!

Apple does this with evening summaries.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

#160
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What is the use-case now in 2025 for an e-ink watch? I have a Garmin Epix pro gen 2 which gets about a month of battery life and has a gorgeous AMOLED, has profiles for pretty much every sport ever invented, incredibly accurate GPS tracking, all day HR-tracking, ECG etc. I understand it's about 4x the price, but there's also lower-end Garmin's that are about 2x the price with the same screen, slightly less features a…

> https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/subscription-plans/

Garmin introduced a subscription and you can guarantee that'll pave the way for the base experience to get shittier over time as they funnel people to it. If it works other fitness watches will follow.

As soon as someone makes a good enough fitness app for that it becomes a way better option, it could actually get better over time without breaking.

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