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Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Post by skeezyboy »

timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

a reminder, most of the world do manual labour in exchange for money. an LLM cant help with that and never will

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Post by dingnuts »

pixelesque wrote: post #132
timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

What's interesting to me along these lines is I assume most of the companies funding the research are targeting the "creative" media in terms of image generation, music generation, avatars, speach, etc. I can understand it's very interesting from a researcher's point-of-view (I'm a software dev who's worked adjacent to some ML researchers doing pipeline stuff to integrate models into software), but at the same time:…

robotics is difficult and since transformers are just next word predictors they can't actually help us design those robots :)

also the billionaires have help so they don't give a shit if the menial stuff is automated or not. throw in a little misogyny by and large too; I saw a LinkedIn Lunatic in the wild (some C-level) saying laundry is already automated because laundry machines exist

fucking.. tell me you don't ever do the laundry without telling me. That guy's poor wife.

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Post by SeanaldMcDnld »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #27

I wonder how hard it would be to get VR output? That's an insane product right there just waiting to happen. Too bad Google sleeps so hard on the tech they create.

Consistent output and spatial coherence across each eye, maybe a couple years? But meeting head tracking accuracy and latency requirements, I’d bet decades. There’s no way any of this tech reduces end to end latency to acceptable levels, without a massive change in hardware. We’ll probably see someone use reprojection techniques in a year or so and claim they’ve done it. But true generated pixels straight to the headset based on head tracking, is so so far away.

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Post by x187463 »

dandellion wrote: post #71
brotchie wrote: post #9

First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.

I suggest you go to google/bing/whatever floats your boat and search "it will only get better" then filter results earlier than 2010. Things that I just found that were going to "only get better": - Google search - Web browsers - Web content - Internet Explorer - Music - Flight process at Mosul airport - Star Wars

None of those have a quantifiable definition of 'better'. The current range of AI models have very easily measured metrics.

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Post by Wissenschafter »

timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

"Granted, you can say "you still can play musical instruments/paint pictures/etc for yourself", but I don't think there was ever a period of time where creative works were just created for sake of itself rather for sharing it with others at masse."

I sit and play guitar by myself all the time, I play for nobody but myself, and I enjoy it a lot. Your argument is absurd.

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Post by furyofantares »

timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

> but I don't think there was ever a period of time where creative works were just created for sake of itself rather for sharing it with others at masse

Kids do it all the time.

> So what is final state here for us?

Something I haven't seen discussed too much is taste - human tastes change based on what has come before. What we will care about tomorrow is not what we care about today.

It seems plausible to me that generative AI could get higher and higher quality without really touching how human tastes changes. That would leave a lot of room for human creativity IMO - we have shared experience in a changing world that seems very hard to capture with data.

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Post by mbowcut2 »

timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

It's not a new problem (for individuals), though perhaps at an unprecedented scale (so, maybe a new problem for civilization). I'm sure there were black smiths that felt they had lost their meaning when they were replaced by industrial manufacturing.
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