Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers • Hacker News Board

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by miltonlost » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:21 PM UTC

bthrn wrote: post #125

It's funny how employers try to rationalize this -- take Coinbase, for example: https://www.coinbase.com/blog/how-coinbase-is-embracing-ai-i... > While some worry AI will dehumanize the hiring process, we believe the opposite. Deploying AI will enable more quality interactions, more quickly for the candidates who are the best fit for our jobs– without unnecessary administrative tasks or distractions. We fully believe…

Well, Coinbase is crypto, right? THey've already made a horrible ehtical decision by getting into that, so might as well double down and add in some biased AI. The candidates who want to work at Coinbase are as enthusiastic as any grift as they are.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by disqard » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:21 PM UTC

betaby wrote: post #95

nikolayasdf123 wrote: post #53

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> except they forget people also need money to buy their goods. this is why we having population collapse

We don't, fertility rate is 2.24 which is with curent medical advancement is above replacement rate.

Not all countries are at 2.24 -- USA is at 1.62, so whether correlation or causation, many developed countries are nowhere near the replacement rate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_f...

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by inanutshellus » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:22 PM UTC

agentultra wrote: post #119

> “The truth is, if you want a job, you’re gonna go through this thing,” Adam Jackson, CEO and founder of Braintrust, a company that distributes AI interviewers, tells Fortune. “If there were a large portion of the job-seeking community that were wholesale rejecting this, our clients wouldn’t find the tool useful… This thing would be chronically underperforming for our clients. And we’re just not seeing that—we’re se…

"With our services, you'll get the best desperate C-student out there for your open position!"

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by Majestic121 » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:22 PM UTC

lm28469 wrote: post #90

raincole wrote: post #81

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It sounds... amazing? Less stockpile and spoilage. Less carbon footprint from transportation.

Amazing until covid hits and everything is out of stock at t+ 5 minutes. Every major city is like 24 hours away from MAJOR riots if anything serious happens to the supply chain.

COVID happened though, and shortages of commodities were extremely temporary, with no dire consequences overall.

What was actually unavailable with dire consequences, like masks/etc... was not unavailable due to lean manufacturing, but simply because it was a new demand that did not exist at this scale before.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by MichaelRo » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

ep103 wrote: post #128

bthrn wrote: post #125

It's funny how employers try to rationalize this -- take Coinbase, for example: https://www.coinbase.com/blog/how-coinbase-is-embracing-ai-i... > While some worry AI will dehumanize the hiring process, we believe the opposite. Deploying AI will enable more quality interactions, more quickly for the candidates who are the best fit for our jobs– without unnecessary administrative tasks or distractions. We fully believe…

This is prime HR style lying. The response is: Problem statement. Claim that reality is the opposite of the problem statement, with no justification given, despite obvious evidence to the contrary. Statement that if reality doesn't match their claim, the worker is at fault. End of statement. Dystopian, infuriating, unethical and immoral.

The fact that a communist dictatorship declares itself to be a benevolent people's paradise, doesn't change the brutal reality one bit. And unlike living under a communist dictatorship, we don't have to accept it. I will strongly vote for those who make this shit illegal.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by FirmwareBurner » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

wongarsu wrote: post #39

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #7

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He's saying the quiet part out loud but all companies think the same whenever they design the hoops their candidates have to jump through. It's shocking to me people are offended of hearing people tell the truth. Would you prefer if he lied to you and called you "valuable family members" instead? Edit to clarify for all those below who misread: I meant "the truth" as in "transparency" from his perspective of how he r…

My issue with the statement is that it's completely ignoring the cost of friction in the interview pipeline. In a job seeker applies to 20 jobs, 10 of which have a pleasant interview pipeline that respect the interviewee as a person as well as respecting their time, and 10 which don't (AI interviews, unreasonable at-home tasks, etc), they are more likely to end up in the former group. If you make your interview proce…

>My issue with the statement is that it's completely ignoring the cost of friction in the interview pipeline.

Firstly, his company, his "cost of friction" to bear. If this cost negatively affects his business then his company will go out of business and the free market will have claimed another victim. Who am I to judge how a man decides to run his own business and interview candidates? I would also like to run my business the way I see fit and not how strangers on the internet want me to.

Secondly, I never said I agree with it, I don't , I just said I appreciate him telling the truth and being transparent about the way he runs his business even though he knew it wouldn't win him any popular votes.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by apwell23 » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

Havoc wrote: post #76

Can’t say I’m surprised this latest evil comes out of HR land. Despite the name they’re not big on the human stuff

pretty sure the idea itself didn't come out of HR dept.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by miltonlost » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:24 PM UTC

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #77

jstummbillig wrote: post #74

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Counterpoint: AI in its current form is democratizing and allowing exactly the not rich to be relatively more dangerous. So yeah, the rich might use it to get richer. But so can everyone* else.

>So yeah, the rich might use it to get richer. But so can everyone else. N'ah as long as the AIs the everyone else has access to are heavily censored and lobotomized to prevent wrong think, while governments and corporations will have access to the raw unbiased data.

The raw data will still be incredibly biased, and the AI will have its own biases on top of what's in the training. Grok will be racist no matter what.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by the_biot » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:26 PM UTC

romaniv wrote: post #145

Step one, companies create AI gauntlet for their applicants. Step two, those companies lose access to the top talent who will simply go interview somewhere else or get a job in some other way. Step three, less scrupulous candidates start to cheat these automated systems. There will also be paid services helping you cheat. Final outcome: most of the people who get to the actual interviews in those companies will be ca…

It's simply the next step in the 8-interview nonsense that seems to be common at least in tech: it selects for people willing to put up with huge amounts of corporate nonsense. Competence at the job is entirely irrelevant.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by untwerp » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 2:27 PM UTC

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #16

Den_VR wrote: post #8

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Count ourselves lucky they haven’t lucky figured out how to make literal ghouls out of silica and the recently dead, because these people would. Just what happened that caused employers to hold so much power in the employee-employer relationship? The collapse of collective bargaining, sure. But what else…

Decades and decades of unfettered Capitalism. - Labor protections getting weaker over time, plus courts usually siding with employers. Overtime laws got chipped away, and a lot of folks get called "contractors" when they're basically employees. - Jobs can move overseas way easier now, so workers don't really have the same leverage they used to. - Big companies buying everything up, regional monopolies forming, and th…

The price of the US being more "business-friendly" vs Europe. The problem with the race to the bottom is you might win, as they say.