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Runsthroughit wrote: post #149
AIPedant wrote: post #109

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The big difference with Stephen Hawking is that he was not born disabled, he became disabled during graduate school. Even in 2025, a human who is born blind and severely paralyzed (so they cannot speak or sign) will probably never learn calculus, regardless of innate ability. Perhaps in the medium term technology will improve. That said, another major difference is psychology. Switching animals, it seems plausible to…

OMG. Helen Keller. If examples help you people. Prob not.

Was Helen Keller severely paralyzed????

  a human who is born blind and severely paralyzed (so they cannot speak or sign)

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tim333 wrote: post #147
AIPedant wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big difference with Stephen Hawking is that he was not born disabled, he became disabled during graduate school. Even in 2025, a human who is born blind and severely paralyzed (so they cannot speak or sign) will probably never learn calculus, regardless of innate ability. Perhaps in the medium term technology will improve. That said, another major difference is psychology. Switching animals, it seems plausible to…

Also LLMs are lacking on the eye, paw and throat front but still do better in the math olympiad than dogs, or me for that matter.

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Re: Meta's Vision for Superintelligence

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Post by Archonical »

dupsik wrote: post #46

>Over the last few months we have begun to see glimpses of our AI systems improving themselves. The improvement is slow for now, but undeniable. Does anyone know what this is referring to?

If I told you "I've begun to see glimpses of my sobriety", would you be convinced I'm committed to not being an alcoholic?

I don't think anyone knows what he is referring to. Maybe AlphaEvolve? Certainly not Llama.

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Post by pbrum »

What if superintelligence isn't even a thing? I was watching an interview with a Chinese-American specialist the other day (I'm sure it's been shared here on HN at some point) and she explained in the Chinese AI community they don't operate under the assumption that something such as AGI or superintelligence exists, and therefore don't work toward that goal. I'm sure people in this community can comment to a much more informed extent on this than I though

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Post by cootsnuck »

tim333 wrote: post #146
DanHulton wrote: post #66

> The improvement is slow for now, but undeniable. Developing superintelligence is now in sight. Oh, is it now? So you know for a fact that intelligence comes from token prediction, do you, Mark? Look, multi-bit screwdrivers have been improving steadily as well. I've got one that stores all it's bits in the handle, and one with over three dozen bits in a handy carrying case! But they're never going to suddenly, magic…

That's not really what he said.

Isn't it though? He's provided zero evidence to suggest otherwise. So of course we are all going to assume he's talking about the current, popular, SOTA architectures still as the foundational piece.

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Post by antfarm »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65
hnthrow90348765 wrote: post #34

This stuff is naive. There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity, and they will fight to preserve it unless you give them an equivalent station in the 'new world'. But you will still need to sustain ex-workers if they can't get normal jobs, and those same people at the top will not tolerate the taxes required to sustain a basic level of living for much wider population. They already can't tol…

>There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity Apart form you of course, so I'm sure you'd be ok if the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe, and therefore fix the wage gap you hate so much. Would you like that solution? Caption this: It's only a problem when the people who…

I believe that in the long run, that solution would be preferable to the effects of income and wealth disparity on US society.

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Post by Mars008 »

lvl155 wrote: post #45
hnthrow90348765 wrote: post #34

This stuff is naive. There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity, and they will fight to preserve it unless you give them an equivalent station in the 'new world'. But you will still need to sustain ex-workers if they can't get normal jobs, and those same people at the top will not tolerate the taxes required to sustain a basic level of living for much wider population. They already can't tol…

Last time I commented on Zuck on HN I got a warning. That said, this stuff confirms for the 100th time that he is out of touch with reality. Perhaps that’s why he wanted to make VR work so badly. I think he might try to change Co’s name again since Meta doesn’t fit the bill anymore. How about they buy Intel and reverse merge just for the name?

He needs to keep investors optimistic about Meta. Moonshot projects, fairy tales work if there is nothing else. Musk uses them too when promotes Tesla.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

benterix wrote: post #89
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65

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>There's a bunch of people who want a large income (wealth) disparity Apart form you of course, so I'm sure you'd be ok if the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe, and therefore fix the wage gap you hate so much. Would you like that solution? Caption this: It's only a problem when the people who…

> the government would tax your higher than average tech wage till your take home pay would match that of a train conductor's or bus driver's, like in Western Europe I live in Europe and earn ca. 6 times more than my friend who is a bus driver in the same city. We both have access to free education and, if we wish, also free healthcare, for which I am paying slightly more, but I really don't mind.

That doesn't scan. In which Western European country is that massive difference? Either you have a FANG wage or your friend has a poverty wage because here's how it's in Austria SW Dev wage 3k net/month, bus driver 2,5k. There's no 6x difference here.

So you're proving my point that it works for you when income distribution is not egalitarian because you wouldn't be very happy if you earned the same as your friend.

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