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The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by atonse »

digital_sawzall wrote: post #101
rexpop wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deeply, deeply deranged to suggest that Israel—a $600B economy—is "wagging the dog" of our $30,500B economy.

AIPAC is the most powerful lobby in Washington. And money get's you anything in politics.

I’ve heard this for decades now.

But how do they rank in importance compared to other juggernauts like the teachers unions, NRA, or United Auto Workers, Planned Parenthood? Not to mention individual lobbyists for massive companies? because the latter dominate discourse during elections.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by _fat_santa »

lvl155 wrote: post #40

And it’s wild to think that more than 1/3 of the devs I’ve met in my life support this admin. These are seemingly smart people. The past 10 years or so made me realize I don’t know anything about human nature or intellect. Edit: I am in no way saying conservatism is bad and liberalism is good. I have my values in both.

I've seen the same thing. What I've seen is most of those folks that supported them during the campaign are now pretty quiet. During the campaign it was "cool" to support Trump and the republicans but now that the dude's in office, most are seeing that campaigns are very different from the administrations.

Looking back I blame the Democrats for running horrible candidates and the gaslighting that their candidates were actually great and were as "cool" as the Trump team. It just felt so disingenuous when you heard Democrats saying that Biden was still very with it and even more disingenuous when they said that Harris/Walz were a great pick. And now the folks that said it was disingenuous were not wrong, cause after the campaign ended and Trump was in office seemingly everyone that praised Biden and then Harris then flipped the script and started saying what everyone was thinking all along (that Biden was not fit to serve and Harris wasn't a great candidate).

I talked to alot of guys that flipped from D to R this past election and just about every one of them said a version of: "do they think we are stupid??".

The Democrats have a hubris problem, they think that just because they run someone and tell folks that the person is great, everyone will just automatically buy into that. That's just not how it works and you have to make a genuinely convincing argument and that argument can't be "the other guys is worse"

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by trashtensor »

TheBlight wrote: post #96
akashshah87 wrote: post #63

“The U.S. began defunding UNESCO under Obama after it admitted Palestine as a full member—and then withdrew entirely during Trump’s first term.” — [ New York Times ]( https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/world/europe/us-withdraw-... ) This isn’t just a blip, but part of a long-term downward trajectory in U.S. and UNESCO relations.

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by skywhopper »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #91
lvl155 wrote: post #40

And it’s wild to think that more than 1/3 of the devs I’ve met in my life support this admin. These are seemingly smart people. The past 10 years or so made me realize I don’t know anything about human nature or intellect. Edit: I am in no way saying conservatism is bad and liberalism is good. I have my values in both.

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You’ve bought into a completely wrong take here. This is not at all what happened. The media kowtows to Trump and the GOP at every opportunity, and has helped create this nonsense CW you are parroting. Twitter is overrun with bots and full-on racism and Nazism and you’re saying Dems bowed to that? You have been fooled.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by boringg »

lvl155 wrote: post #40

And it’s wild to think that more than 1/3 of the devs I’ve met in my life support this admin. These are seemingly smart people. The past 10 years or so made me realize I don’t know anything about human nature or intellect. Edit: I am in no way saying conservatism is bad and liberalism is good. I have my values in both.

There are so many wide ranging forms of intelligence. Being an exceptional engineer or a high functioning executive/CEO you may have a very narrow slice of intelligence or capability. It does not in any way mean you have an understanding of how the world works or general knowledge.

I agree -- it is surprising how many high achieving people have such poor understanding of how the world/society/countries work. It's almost like our education system's specificity hasn't done a good job on civics broadly.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by Teknomadix »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #47

What year is it, 2017? https://2017-2021.state.gov/the-united-states-withdraws-from... Boring, been here before. UNESCO and world moved on. With some notable declarations like Demoscene and Techno music being added in a number of countries. Too bad those couldn't be added to a US registry also.

Demoscene. A number of countries meaning Norway, Sweden and Finland?

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by spacebanana7 »

lvl155 wrote: post #40

And it’s wild to think that more than 1/3 of the devs I’ve met in my life support this admin. These are seemingly smart people. The past 10 years or so made me realize I don’t know anything about human nature or intellect. Edit: I am in no way saying conservatism is bad and liberalism is good. I have my values in both.

Steelman their position. Try finding reasons good people would vote for Trump, or at least sincere mistakes of reasoning that a good person could make.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by nozzlegear »

echelon wrote: post #38
fuzzylightbulb wrote: post #9

This administration has zero ability to build or bring people together, able only to destroy what others have made. On the bright side, it isn't effective until December 31, 2026 so there is plenty of time to chicken out.

> it isn't effective until December 31, 2026 so there is plenty of time to chicken out. That's within the current administration. Unless a change in congress can prevent this, it's a done deal.

I think they were alluding to Trump's now notorious penchant to flip flop and waffle on every decision he makes. It's why the TACO Trump meme sprang up and continues to be used in reference to him – Trump Always Chickens Out.

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Post by netbioserror »

seydor wrote: post #115

When did America stop being a globalist in the globalization that they themselves created. And how do you justify iran, hoothis, israel, taiwan with an antiglobalist agenda.

Is it not obvious? Democracies are schizophrenic, where the people and the ruling class are constantly fighting to implement and repeal half-baked bastardizations of their agendas. The best sign that the people have any influence in their government is that there is zero consistent application of anything. Consistency only happens when the democratic element is removed.
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