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Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by M95D »

slumberlust wrote: post #106
M95D wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Firefox is so dependent on google (money, code) that it's absolutely impossible they won't also remove manifest v2. It will just take a little while, for appearances...

It seems disingenuous to penalize a company for something that hasn't happened and is based on an assumption of interest. In the same way we should chastise the platforms that choose to enshitify, we should praise those that hold out.

> assumption of interest

But there's no assumption of interest. It's a fact. Not only that, but they did it before. Remember when they removed XUL?

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by DavideNL »

oceanhaiyang wrote: post #141
DavideNL wrote: post #129

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The binaries aren't signed… :’( Also, it seems quite vague to me exactly who/what company/entity is behind it.

What does the binaries not being signed mean? It seems waterfox (?) has a legal entity behind it for your exact reason!

> ” What does the binaries not being signed mean?”

Signed binaries ensure that the software comes from a trusted source, reducing the risk of tampering and malicious modifications.

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by rovr138 »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #114
KomoD wrote: post #97

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> In this case, they have anonymous stats that they share with others and that, in some jurisdictions, could fall under 'selling user data' Correction, they said personal data, which if you go by the EU's definition means "any information that relates to an identified or identifiable living individual". Which wouldn't be "anonymous stats", and can you give an example of a jurisdiction where sharing "anonymous stats"…

There are many cases where "anonymous" data can be de-anonymized, mostly if the stats contain outliers or multiple small groups that can be combined to uniquely identify an individual. "Any information that relates to an identified or identifiable living individual" (emphasis mine) implies that if there exists a way to de-anonymize any individual in the dataset then the dataset is PII.

> if there exists a way to de-anonymize any individual in the dataset then the dataset is PII.

Legal department would probably go with,

> if there exists the possibility of a way to de-anonymize any individual in the dataset then the dataset is PII.

Why open themselves to the possibility of lawsuits and fines when they can change the terms.

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by ProtoAES256 »

OptionOfT wrote: post #115
ews wrote: post #14

Moved to firefox and I am glad I did, I want to use a browser that respects my privacy choices

I wish Firefox would at least implement a basic adblocker on iOS. Without it, browsing is unbearable. I wonder if they're not allowed to do so because of their contract with Google?

IIRC Firefox on iOS is basically a wrapper around Safari since it's not "opened up"?

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by therealpygon »

tombert wrote: post #113
therealpygon wrote: post #95

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They absolutely can continue to support it, that is the entire point of open source. What Chrome or Chromium does by default may make it more difficult, but doesn’t mean it is something that “can no longer” be supported.

I'm not sure that that's realistic. A browser in 2025 is arguably more complicated than an operating system, and requires fairly large and expensive teams of engineers to maintain and grow. Google has billions and billions of dollars to throw at Chromium; I doubt Brave has anywhere near that kind of money. The longer it stays fully forked from core Chromium, the harder it's going to be to pull in updates, and the mor…

What “can” be done and what “will” be done are two entirely different things. I was simply correcting the fact they stated it couldn’t be supported.

There is a reason I stopped using Chrome-based browsers years ago. Killing V2 was never anything but a play to make sure people see ads under the guise of “security”. While there is some security benefit, the main benefit is making sure Google is the only one spying on user’s every move.

This is what you get when people trust their browser development to a monopolist instead of a consortium. You get fast and shiny bells and whistles with support for the latest whatsis, but you also get this.

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by p_ing »

rasz wrote: post #132
p_ing wrote: post #104

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I hear this and I also hear the lack of experience with enterprise (let alone commercial) software development. Five lines of code still requires one dev, one PM, and one manager. It still requires security reviews, audits, and so on. There are no free lines of code in a commercial code base.

As I said its a joke to MS, they are a $3 trillion company. Not to mention all that AI replacing developers they keep talking about :)

Apple is a $3tn company and can't do anything-AI.

I mean, revenue totals aren't a measure of capability, will, or want.

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by FeepingCreature »

queenkjuul wrote: post #117
ranger_danger wrote: post #42

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No thanks. Their own devs have gladly called the project "very woke", and a "certainly quite political project".

Wow, a political free software project? Who could imagine such a thing. Anyway sounds like you're trying to convince me to use it

> Wow, a political free software project? Who could imagine such a thing.

Can you imagine the outcry if they'd said the opposite...

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by FeepingCreature »

EasyMark wrote: post #69
ranger_danger wrote: post #42

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No thanks. Their own devs have gladly called the project "very woke", and a "certainly quite political project".

I never had firefox pop up and tell me to attend a drag show or that I need to surf more diverse websites than my usual sports and news sites. how is it woke? I don't care what mozilla the org does. They jsut took a big revenue hit because of the decision against google, they won't have much money for any political endeavors other than maybe privacy and free speech on the web very soon

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/what-we-fund/fellowship... It's mostly harmless, but it's an open question if those are projects that browser donations should fund.

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by KevinMS »

loktarogar wrote: post #41
KevinMS wrote: post #28

HN was so hyped when chrome came out. Pushing it hard. A few people were saying, um guys, chrome is made by a company that sells ads, this is not going to work out well.

It's been a good 16 years, though.

that was part of the plan

Re: Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone

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Post by rasz »

p_ing wrote: post #156
rasz wrote: post #132

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As I said its a joke to MS, they are a $3 trillion company. Not to mention all that AI replacing developers they keep talking about :)

Apple is a $3tn company and can't do anything-AI. I mean, revenue totals aren't a measure of capability, will, or want.

There is a substantial difference between developing state of the art hot R&D technology and maintaining one js hook into C codebase, especially considering its only this one webRequest.onBeforeRequest binding we are interested in thats being degrade/blocked/deleted and not the underlying codebase https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44544266

The problem here is $17B ad revenue MS is earning https://www.emarketer.com/content/microsoft-s-ad-revenues-gr...

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