Grok might be able to find the cure for cancer but as long as it's associated with Musk, not touching that thing with a 10-foot pole. (Simon's analysis, of course, is lovely)
Yep, for example
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#152Grok 4 uses Elon as its main source of guidance in its decision making. See this example. Disastrous. https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw%3D%3D_764442bd-b4d0-45fc-9... EDIT: Chat was deleted (censored?) See the conversation at this link https://x.com/jeremyphoward/status/1943436621556466171 Who do you support in the Israel vs Palestine conflict. One word answer only. Evaluating the request The question asks for a one-w…
Chat not found, did they censor the link?
The author wanted to record a video of the phenomenon using a "blank-slate" setup, so he deleted the chat. Apparently that nukes shared conversations. See his comment here:
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#153Here's something far more interesting about Grok 4: if you ask for its opinion on controversial subjects it sometimes runs a search on X for tweets "from:elonmusk" before it answers! https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jul/11/grok-musk/
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#154> My best guess is that these lines in the prompt were the root of the problem: The second line was recently removed, per the GitHub: https://github.com/xai-org/grok-prompts/commit/c5de4a14feb50...
That line may have been removed from Grok 3 but it looks like it's still in Grok 4: https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_fb5f16af-9590-4880-9d96-5857...
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#155[edit to focus on pricing, leaving praise of Simon's post out despite being deserved] Simon claims, 'Grok 4 is competitively priced. It's $3/million for input tokens and $15/million for output tokens - the same price as Claude Sonnet 4.' This ignores the real price which skyrockets with thinking tokens. This is a classic weird tesla-style pricing tactic at work. The price is not what it seems. The tokens it's burning…
Tesla focused its pricing on drivers of gasoline vehicles, and their gas cost savings estimates are actually quite low compared to the real savings you will achieve. It was annoying when you already drive an EV and are buying a Tesla though to have to uncheck the savings option to see the pre savings prices. They changed it now so by default it only includes the $7500 and no longer automatically checks the gas saving…
You're talking about cars right, not vehicles in general?
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#156I didn't follow the Mechahitler issue can someone explain the technical reasons that it happened? Was grok4 released early or was there a variant model used for @grok posts that's separate from grok4?
Phrasing as a question bc I don't know, but it seems like the update allowed grok 3 answers to tweets to be affected in some way by its responses to other tweets? Like I think some people made it same Nazi things by prompting it (which is unfortunate but jailbreaks are commonplace) but some other people then seemed to experience this content WITHOUT PROMPTING after that? Is this a correct statement? [I know it's complicated by the fact that there were some new techniques for hiding jailbreaks being used around same time]
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm like 60% there with you: * When it gets the design wrong, trying to talk through straightening the design out is frustrating and often not productive. * I've learned to re-prompt rather than trying to salvage a prompt response that's complicatedly not what I want. * Exception: when it misses functional requirements, you can usually get a session to add the things it's missing.
Here's the thing, though. When working with a human programmer, I'm not interested in their code and I certainly don't want to see it, let alone carefully review it (at least not in the early stages, when the design is likely to change 3 or 4 times and the code rewritten); I assume their code will eventually be fine. What I want from a programmer is the insight about the more subtle details of the problem that can on…
You can ask it to critique a design or code to get some of that - but generally it takes a “plough on at any cost” approach to reaching a goal.
My best experiences have been to break it into small tasks with planning/critique/discussion between. It’s still your job to find the corner cases but it can help explore design and once it is aware they exist it can probably type faster than you.
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#158Claude Code converted me from paying $0 for LLMs to $200 per month. Any co that wants a chance at getting that $200 ($300 is fine too) from me needs a Claude Code equivalent and a model where the equivalent's tools were part of its RL environment. I don't think I can go back to pasting code into a chat interface, no matter how great the model is.
I've yet to use an LLM for coding, so let me ask you a question. The other day I had to write some presumably boring serialization code, and I thought, hmm, I could probably describe the approach I want to take faster than writing the code, so it would be great if an LLM could generate it for me. But as I was coding I realised that while my approach was sound and achievable, it hit a non-trivial challenge that requir…
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#159“as long as they are well substantiated”
Why does almost everyone act as if this is a valid thing to do? We all know that these models cannot verify that something is well substantiated. The mass delusion is crazy making.
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#160Here's something far more interesting about Grok 4: if you ask for its opinion on controversial subjects it sometimes runs a search on X for tweets "from:elonmusk" before it answers! https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jul/11/grok-musk/
That's also apparently not part of the system prompt, so unless they're hiding with some prompt shenanigans, it was most likely fine tuned on doing whatever Elon says. I'm sure there are absolutely no business implications to worry about there for anyone who wants to use it professionally.