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$50 + health insurance? I saw my PCP after my health insurance had unknowingly lapsed and a physical was ~$1k with just some basic blood work.
How people justify paying $1000 for probably less than 15 minutes of work is beyond me.
>The real tragedy is not that Hims exists, but that it works so perfectly. Every day, thousands of people choose their compounded weight-loss drugs over FDA-approved alternatives, their combination ED pills over established single-ingredient treatments, their algorithmic consultations over actual medical care. They make these choices not because the products are better, but because the entire experience has been opti…
It’s possible for both you and the article to be right. The system sucks, but Hims are also terrible, and medical care should not be like Amazon prime.
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It works the same way that health insurance works -- most people don't need all that much care, and when time-consuming care is needed, it is often pushed to the specialists rather than the generalist. Your $50/mo payment might not seem like much, but if all you're doing is a bi-monthly checkin with them over the phone, you're really paying more like $100/visit for a 15-30 minute visit. A lot of these 'concierge medi…
Doctors make $20k a month or more. That's 420+ patients at $50/m. Doesn't seem feasible to know them all personally and deeply. Other revenue would be needed.
We're talking about basic preventative care here. Your doctor doesn't need and probably doesn't want to be your friend for these sorts of things. There doesn't need to be a deep personal relationship there if it's not necessary.
(But also, $50/mo is a very low price. I've seen plenty of such services that are in the $500+/mo range. It's still way cheaper than health insurance would cost out of pocket, but it's not 'cheap' either.)
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> If you want safe and really high quality medical care you should absolutely have a personal physician you have a personal relationship with, who understands your lifestyle, your risk factors for side effects, and your medical needs deeply. How many Americans have that? Maybe a few dozen? A bit of a tangent: I have this here in the US, through a model called Direct Primary Care. I pay $50/mo for a single provider, u…
> I pay $50/mo for a single provider, unlimited visits / communication, and highly discounted labs. She makes house calls on occasion. This doctor is working solely in my interest, and has little concern of insurance, except to help me navigate that system should I need a specialist, prior authorization, etc. Someone's presumably paying her more than $50/hr, which will burn through your monthly fees pretty quickly. W…
>The real tragedy is not that Hims exists, but that it works so perfectly. Every day, thousands of people choose their compounded weight-loss drugs over FDA-approved alternatives, their combination ED pills over established single-ingredient treatments, their algorithmic consultations over actual medical care. They make these choices not because the products are better, but because the entire experience has been opti…
I ended up paying over $1k out of pocket for two inconclusive sleep studies trying to get my sleep issue sorted out. I'm fortunate to work in technology where I can pay that sort of thing, but I still got zero results from my local medical community. I can't blame anyone for seeking self-treatment options. It can be pretty bad even with "good" insurance and the ability to cover co-insurance.
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It works the same way that health insurance works -- most people don't need all that much care, and when time-consuming care is needed, it is often pushed to the specialists rather than the generalist. Your $50/mo payment might not seem like much, but if all you're doing is a bi-monthly checkin with them over the phone, you're really paying more like $100/visit for a 15-30 minute visit. A lot of these 'concierge medi…
Doctors make $20k a month or more. That's 420+ patients at $50/m. Doesn't seem feasible to know them all personally and deeply. Other revenue would be needed.
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It's a little of column A, little of column B, but in a mixed way. A lot of doctor visits for basic health issues are ones that can be dealt with over a phone or video call. Routine stuff like updating your medicines, changing dosages, showing a bruise or dealing with a mild fever don't require you to be physically present at the doctor's office. Having to deal with insurance, scheduling, waiting times, driving to th…
I always lol at “reduce stress” as medical advice. May as well tell depressed people to “work on your attitude, turn that frown upside down!” If people could just “reduce stress” on a whim, they would. Having a doctor tell you reduce stress will actually increase stress.
It was enormously helpful /s
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That's certainly a significantly better rate of success than what I'd heard from the people I know who took it! Perhaps there's just some weird selection bias in my network.
Bad news spreads better than good news.
Interesting how a few rare commenters strongly agree with this article and yet most comments here don't. Perhaps HN is full of people with high digital literacy, relatively high reasoning ability etc. People like this can benefit from the service. The article's core point is that Hims uses unethical marketing. Maybe the HN crowd is privileged: people here may be able to resist marketing. The article's unstated point…
>these unfortunate people spend pretty much their whole lives bouncing around from scam to scam. Should these people be eligible to vote?