People are eager to pay money to not deal with other people. Which makes me pessimistic about the future of humanity given recent developments in AI really
Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway
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> Are the American's you're referencing living in the EU or back in the US? The EU > Could the language barrier be a reason for their hesitancy? No: > (and it's not a language barrier problem, because everyone speaks english) >I've heard stories about gen-z/alpha being more app brained I think you might be on to something there, maybe it's more of a generational thing than a cultural difference between American and E…
German Millennial here, I'd much prefer an app to having to call someone. I hate calling anyone, and I know I'm not alone there. Let me text or use an app and I'm in.
I walk to restaurants if I can to avoid using Wolt for instance.
Then again, I appreciate that AI is probably a better driver than 60% of taxi drivers.
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This is the thing that people don't realize about autonomous AI. It's not primarily about saving money. Autonomous taxis are superior to Uber and yellow cabs. It's a better experience, and it's far safer. Autonomous cars aren't cheaper, they're better. When AI agents replace human jobs, any cost savings is secondary. A coding job where the AI does most of the grunt work is superior to a job where humans do everything…
>AI agents done well are superior at call center jobs, screen-based office work, mortgage processing, financial analysis, most business consulting like process redesign, etc. The biggest benefit isn't reducing payroll, it's doing the job faster, with higher quality and more consistency. Just wait until your human needs inside the bowels of some corporate or government bureaucracy, that no matter what will inevitably…
Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway
#154I've had some nice conversations with Uber drivers, but I've had some unpleasant rides too. I'd definitely pay a bit extra for a good driverless car. ('Good' being key. After trying out the Tesla FSD beta a couple times though, you couldn't pay me to ride in one of those without the ability to grab control.)
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A robot can be programmed to do that. As soon as they're economically incentivized to do so someone will write that code.
When the driver and the platform are different entities (like Uber) you end up with these weird incentives. How would that happen in the Waymo case?
There’s a million ways to do it. Shadow ban locations, mistakenly pull up to the wrong location, etc.
Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway
#156Waymos will get cheaper to make as they scale up. The Ioniq version [1] costs less to build. All the sheet metal and mechanical mods for Waymo are done at the Hyundai factory in Georgia.[2] Waymo just mounts the electronics. Jobs at the Hyundai factory start at $23.66/hour, with reasonably good benefits.[3] [1] https://waymo.com/blog/2024/10/waymo-and-hyundai-enter-partn... [2] https://www.hmgma.com/ [3] https://care…
Meaning their profits will rise as they inevitably increase prices
Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway
#157Waymos will get cheaper to make as they scale up. The Ioniq version [1] costs less to build. All the sheet metal and mechanical mods for Waymo are done at the Hyundai factory in Georgia.[2] Waymo just mounts the electronics. Jobs at the Hyundai factory start at $23.66/hour, with reasonably good benefits.[3] [1] https://waymo.com/blog/2024/10/waymo-and-hyundai-enter-partn... [2] https://www.hmgma.com/ [3] https://care…
>Waymos will get cheaper to make as they scale up. Meaning their profits will rise as they inevitably increase prices
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The worst is Revel, which, in NYC, are ALL teslas/EVs. worst taxi experience of my life was a 1 hr drive to airport in stop and go street light traffic. I appreciated the hustle but deleted the app soon after my gag reflex subsided. they should at least disable regenerative braking or something
Regen braking is a way of slowing down like drum brakes. It's not inherently any less smooth.
Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway
#159Waymos will get cheaper to make as they scale up. The Ioniq version [1] costs less to build. All the sheet metal and mechanical mods for Waymo are done at the Hyundai factory in Georgia.[2] Waymo just mounts the electronics. Jobs at the Hyundai factory start at $23.66/hour, with reasonably good benefits.[3] [1] https://waymo.com/blog/2024/10/waymo-and-hyundai-enter-partn... [2] https://www.hmgma.com/ [3] https://care…
>Waymos will get cheaper to make as they scale up. Meaning their profits will rise as they inevitably increase prices
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I've been in more than one Uber that smelled like the driver just smoked weed.
I formally report it every time I'm in a car that has the deodorizer turned up to 11 because it makes me nauseous. My worst one was a 30 minute ride to the airport in LA - I thought about just having them pull over and ordering a replacement
This is a good thing. I do think we're much better off now than we were in the 80s-10s (relentless, pervasive over-fragrancing).
But lately I've been running into the occasional Axe-weilder or odd desktop gadget that creates an airplane sized zone of unbreatable air. It might be time to dust-off some civil reminders about air quality.