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The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Linux and LibreOffice

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Re: The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by Symbiote »

Qem wrote: post #79
pu_pe wrote: post #64

Denmark is at particular risk because if the US does something concrete against Greenland, they might want to retaliate with sanctions at the very least. Impossible to do that if you have a strong dependency on American tech companies.

> they might want to retaliate with sanctions at the very least. Just like what happened to the International Criminal Court recently, when Microsoft tried to obstruct war crimes investigations by blocking their email: https://www.computerweekly.com/opinion/Microsofts-ICC-email-...

This action made the mainstream Danish press, so it's probably contributed to the decision.

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/penge/microsofts-blokering-af-euro...

Re: The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by N19PEDL2 »

jamesblonde wrote: post #32

David Heinemeir Hansson (ruby-on-rails) writes extensively about the risk to Danish sovereignty if they don't have digital sovereignty. In particular, Microsoft have already shown they will acquiesce to Trump's wishes. Turn off Microsoft in Denmark in the morning, you get Greenland by the afternoon. https://world.hey.com/dhh/denmark-gets-more-serious-about-di... P.s. this thread will be gone within 1-2 hrs when the m…

This can only work once. Then, when the rest of the world sees that the US government uses US-made software as a blackmail weapon against a (former) ally and friend, no one will want to buy products from Microsoft or other US companies.

Re: The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by int_19h »

simion314 wrote: post #148
int_19h wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE still does. GNOME also does, but it basically requires them to compat-shim systemd, which is really unfortunate.

but does a BSD user want GNOME? GNOME target users are more casual, too many options are too much for them.

I don't know, but given that e.g. FreeBSD has an entire team dedicated to keeping GNOME working with whatever hacks are necessary, presumably there are at least enough to volunteer for such work.

Anyway, my point was more broadly that Gnome and its surrounding software ecosystem is explicitly and openly Linux-first and have no qualms introducing dependencies like systemd that make it that much harder to get it working everywhere else. I'm pretty sure I've seen Gnome folk straight up say that they simply don't care about anything other than Linux. So unfortunately it's not always that simple to move the apps over.

(KDE, on the other hand, is pretty BSD-friendly.)

Re: The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by timbit42 »

Symbiote wrote: post #149
timbit42 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it puzzling they use OpenOffice instead of LibreOffice.

The project started 6 years before the LibreOffice fork existed.

Yes, but it's been left in the dust since the devs left to fork it as LibreOffice.

Re: The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by WindyMiller »

ForHackernews wrote: post #146
WindyMiller wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment said 'organizing this', not doing the development work. That could mean crowdfunding to fund development of the desired outcome. A faff, of course, but perhaps a better deal than contributing monetarily to Microsoft to have Copilot shoved in your face instead of the features you actually want.

organizing is by far more difficult work than coding.

You can crowdfund for a project manager!

Re: The Danish Ministry of Digitalization Is Switching to Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by angulardragon03 »

pjc50 wrote: post #20
forinti wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know many infrastructure techies that prefer Windows and swear that it's easier to maintain a Windows network. With regards to end users, I think the only office software that still has an undeniable grip is Excel, but as people use Google Sheets more and more, the idea of using something different is becoming less absurd.

Windows does have better user and device administrators tools. However, this doesn't stop people using Macs, which are absolutely terrible for mass administration.

Macs are fine for mass admin. Companies like Meta, SAP, and IBM have fleets numbering in the 6 figures that they manage with no issue.

I manage almost a thousand Macs at a financial institution with ease.

If you’re using Intune for Mac management, I would understand your perspective a bit more.

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