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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by FireBeyond »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #50

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I would like politicians on the left to speak up about the rioting and burning of stuff at the current protests and also the Tesla and George Floyd protests. It doesn’t help the cause if we allow some assholes to destroy stuff. Basically they are giving people like Trump an excuse to deploy force and a lot of people will agree. I can’t see what is achieved by burning cars and…

The best quote I heard about the BLM / Floyd protests:

"Too many people are saying, "It's terrible that innocent black men died, but this property destruction has to stop!"

when they should be saying, "It's terrible that there is property destruction, but the death of innocent black men has to stop!"."

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by mkfs »

daft_pink wrote: post #114

I lived through the BLM protests in a liberal city. They let them destroy everything, then they called in the National Guard to stop looting that already happened. Everyone’s okay with peaceful protests, but they should call in the national guard and prosecute people for violence. You might hate Trump, but in my previous experience, it’s the residents of the most liberal districts that suffer all the consequences of…

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2024, but I did do so in 2020 specifically because of the BLM riots, which the media incited (through selective reporting of police violence), excused ("fiery, mostly peaceful protests"), and then went so far as to doxx and harass anyone who resisted the mob, or even just those who found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, like the fuel truck driver who hadn't been informed that BLM had commandeered an interstate (and didn't want to get Reginald Denny'd): https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/tr...

Glad to see Trump learned his lesson from the first time.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by RajT88 »

brewdad wrote: post #141
pyuser583 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read somewhere reliable Trump is not invoking the Insurrection Act. I’d cite my source, but can’t find it. I also can’t find anything saying he is invoking it. Do you have any specific source? Edit: I’ve found several sources that make It clear the Insurrection Act had not been invoked. https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/09/politics/insurrection-act-tru... - “Trump officials quietly discuss moves in LA that avoid invoking…

Then that makes this move illegal. Impeach him now.

We tried that. Nothing has changed since then - if anything he has consolidated more power.

Republicans would have to lose a lot of seats for it to happen. Or, Trump would do something beyond the pale for the GOP. Hard to imagine what would make them change their minds on it. Probably not thousands of dead protesters.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by DoktorDelta »

yahway wrote: post #102

I originally turned to HN to get away from politics, so it's disappointing to see one of the last remaining refuges being overtaken

You cannot "get away" from politics. Burying your head in the sand will not insulate you from what is happening.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by [deleted] »

vasco wrote: post #83
bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

I'm not american but I remember marines being mobilized for hurricane Katrina in New Orleans too. Funny that if it's so bad to deploy them, why is it OK to deploy them in other countries?

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by Grum9 »

tayo42 wrote: post #124
koolba wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They don't want their communities raided, for multiple reasons, like being a victim of misidentification. They're proud of their heritage, and its the reason why they are being targeted.

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by Jtsummers »

MaxHoppersGhost wrote: post #122
khazhoux wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how will they protect? When a protester throws a rock at a federal building’s window. Or when they run towards the fed building with a can of spray paint. Will the Marines merely deploy harsh language?

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A few years ago a bunch of protesters damaged a federal building and endangered federal workers and elected officials. They all got pardons. What is your opinion of that event and its outcome?

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by rixed »

dylan604 wrote: post #99
vasco wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not american but I remember marines being mobilized for hurricane Katrina in New Orleans too. Funny that if it's so bad to deploy them, why is it OK to deploy them in other countries?

Their job is to be deployed internationally and specifically not to be deployed domestically. That's why it's so appalling.

It's also appealing each time they are deployed internationally, but to "others".

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by motorest »

WatchDog wrote: post #118
lenerdenator wrote: post #81

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I'm not American, thus I had no vote in the election, nor do I like Trump for a number of reasons. However, enforcement of immigration laws has been one of the biggest parts of his election platform, if not the central part(build the wall, etc). I imagine his voters are happy to see some action being taken. The protestors could really do with some better optics, destroying property and waving foreign flags is just go…

> However, enforcement of immigration laws has been one of the biggest parts of his election platform, if not the central part(build the wall, etc).

If you pay attention, you will notice that immigration policies have nothing to do with what's happening in the US, and at most they are a pretext.

The Trump administration is rounding up and transfering people, including US citizens, to prisons in third world countries they have no connection with. They are doing this without due process or legal basis. They have attacked and threatened judges who can and did opposed these actions. Lately the Trump administration is even threatening elected officials, including governors, with imprisonment.

Now you are witnessing the Trump administration illegally mobilizing both a state's national guard and the armed forces against its own citizens.

At one point anyone has to ask themselves if this is really about immigration at all.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by speakfreely »

bmandale wrote: post #147
WatchDog wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not American, thus I had no vote in the election, nor do I like Trump for a number of reasons. However, enforcement of immigration laws has been one of the biggest parts of his election platform, if not the central part(build the wall, etc). I imagine his voters are happy to see some action being taken. The protestors could really do with some better optics, destroying property and waving foreign flags is just go…

What good is a "PR win"? Nobody would have even heard about it if they'd marched peacefully, and if they had it would have changed nobodies minds, and otherwise changed nothing. The issues for which a simple march can have any influence at all on are the ones for which the powers that be don't have strong feelings on, where they can be swayed by seeing public support for the issue. Trump has well past dug in his heel…

It's relevant to mention that the trigger for these riots was federal agents administratively detaining people who are in the country illegally. These are not new federal immigration laws that Trump has passed; in fact, they were enforced thoroughly by the Obama administration, as well.

Trump is purposely manufacturing a crisis because he knows his opposition is taking a losing position. Polls have been very clear that voters want the government to enforce immigration laws. Maybe not in Los Angeles, but nationally, the left is taking the losing side of this issue.

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