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Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by adastra22 »

hu3 wrote: post #23
hollowturtle wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

copilot autocomplete? my experience with it has been very delusional, cursor prediction in cursor(bad naming let's be honest) is simply unmatched

Copilot in VSCode has autocomplete and also something they call "next edit". In my experience, next edit is a significant net positive. It fixes my typos and predicts next things I want to do in other lines of the same file. For example, if I fix a variable scope from a loop, it automatically scans for similar mistakes nearby and suggests. Editing multiple array values is also intuitive. It will also learn and sugges…

Cursor does this. And in my experience it gets it perfectly right 95% of the time or better. A lot of times I can start editing something and then just keep hitting tab over and over again until the change is complete--including jumping around the file to make edits in various disconnected places. Of course you can do most of this in Copilot too, but you'd expect something that maybe works and needs a lot of cleanup. The cursor autocomplete is, more often than not, EXACTLY what you would have hand crafted, without any deficiencies.

It's also somehow tracking what I look at, because I can look up an API and then return to the original source file and the first autocomplete suggestion is exactly what I was looking up, even though there would be no context to suggest it.

It's really quite magical, and a whole different level from Copilot.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by aitchnyu »

JimDabell wrote: post #123
ai_assisted_dev wrote: post #116

I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per min…

The market for AI-assisted development is exploding and token costs are plummeting all the time. It makes sense for them to subsidise usage to capture market share in the short-term with the expectation that servicing their users will cost them less in the future.

I use Aider with Openrouter and I keep wondering about the pricing of LLMs after providers decide to be profitable. Can we still afford a model which knows Python, Java and how to disrupt snail biology without poisoning mammals?

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by wg0 »

ai_assisted_dev wrote: post #116

I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per min…

I'm curious what's your usage. How much different it is from Claude based Copilot.

Both are genuine questions.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by gazagoal »

As someone who has two annual subs of Cursor Pro (one from student account and another from Lenny's newsletter), I just spent $100 on Claude Code and I haven't touched Cursor AI for any coding tasks since. If you already spend anything near or over $100 on Cursor, it's no brainer. The agent experience is night and day. No more wrong tool-calling, premature ending of conversation, failure to apply changes or overwriting a whole file with the update snippet. I'm considering upgrading to $200 Claude Max next month for more concurrent sessions. If anyone reading this thinking this is a paid comment, go search for other users' feedback. Claude Code is that good.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by ido »

aitchnyu wrote: post #152
JimDabell wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The market for AI-assisted development is exploding and token costs are plummeting all the time. It makes sense for them to subsidise usage to capture market share in the short-term with the expectation that servicing their users will cost them less in the future.

I use Aider with Openrouter and I keep wondering about the pricing of LLMs after providers decide to be profitable. Can we still afford a model which knows Python, Java and how to disrupt snail biology without poisoning mammals?

The answer to that depends on when the VC bubble bursts- if it lasts long enough costs will eventually drop far enough. Pets.com was a .com-boom era joke but today I actually buy my pet-food online and I'm pretty sure nobody is subsidising me doing that.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by GaboGomez »

ai_assisted_dev wrote: post #116

I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per min…

The last feature you mentioned on your wish list is literally one of the new features in the major release. I’m hyped

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by ai_assisted_dev »

wg0 wrote: post #153
ai_assisted_dev wrote: post #116

I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per min…

I'm curious what's your usage. How much different it is from Claude based Copilot. Both are genuine questions.

Do you mean Claude Code? Or something else? As for usage, do you mean the product I am working on? Happy to answer.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by sunaookami »

smcleod wrote: post #56

I don't really see why people still use Cursor over tools like Cline / Roo Code. I'm guessing it's as they clearly have a larger viral marketing department than engineers, as the application itself doesn't perform nearly as well, requires you to have another IDE installed and their subscriptions nerf the models context sizes etc...

Cline eats tokens for breakfast, especially for reasoning models. Used it to apply an older patch for a certain React Native lib to a newer version (was not very big but files moved around etc.) and it blew through my free 1 Mio tokens per day for o3 in a few minutes. It worked flawlessly though, but Cursor is just way cheaper.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by flawn »

gazagoal wrote: post #154

As someone who has two annual subs of Cursor Pro (one from student account and another from Lenny's newsletter), I just spent $100 on Claude Code and I haven't touched Cursor AI for any coding tasks since. If you already spend anything near or over $100 on Cursor, it's no brainer. The agent experience is night and day. No more wrong tool-calling, premature ending of conversation, failure to apply changes or overwriti…

Can you elaborate why Claude Code is that much better in regard to also the missing in built IDE functionality?

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by pjerem »

gazagoal wrote: post #154

As someone who has two annual subs of Cursor Pro (one from student account and another from Lenny's newsletter), I just spent $100 on Claude Code and I haven't touched Cursor AI for any coding tasks since. If you already spend anything near or over $100 on Cursor, it's no brainer. The agent experience is night and day. No more wrong tool-calling, premature ending of conversation, failure to apply changes or overwriti…

Well, sure. Except that in most of the world outside SV, $200/month is expensive.

At least Cursor is affordable to any developer. Because most of the time, even if it’s totally normal, companies act like they’re doing you a favor when they pay for your IDE so most people aren’t going to ask an AI subscription anytime soon.

I mean, it will probably come but not today.

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