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Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by swsieber »

johnh-hn wrote: post #110
brigade wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glasses like these put the screen at a focal distance further than a monitor, closer to TV distance. Optics wise it’s basically the same as VR, if a VR headset is easier to try. If your corrected vision needs stuff 6” away, don’t expect AR or VR to be a solution with current optics

This is what I've been worried about. I have lens implants so I already have a fixed focus as well. The combination of the two would likely be a problem.

Some ar glasses support adjustable focus, and others support custom prescription lenses.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by Squeeze2664 »

noen wrote: post #115
johnh-hn wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I'm legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it. It's been hell on my back and neck. I've only really made it work because I've modified so many things to get around…

Basically all XR devices put the focal plane at between 0.5 and 1m away. It’s a very very complicated reason why, but this is unlikely to change for a very long time.

Can you point to something to learn more about this?

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by seltzered_ » 

  >  Can someone please make a good folding keyboard? This little $18 piece of plastic is decent for what it is, but this was the weakest part of the whole setup, and it feels like it should be the easiest.
You may want to consider the Protoarc xk03 https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comments/1akevd... or adding a Bluetooth mod to the old palm folding keyboard: https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comments/sqvrsg...

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by swsieber »

rcarmo wrote: post #122
johnh-hn wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I'm legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it. It's been hell on my back and neck. I've only really made it work because I've modified so many things to get around…

I have very high myopia (over -10) and share your concerns. I really wish these things were designed to cater to people for whom alternate display tech would actually simplify our lives. So far I haven't seen anything that can deal with more than -8, and getting a custom prescription is usually prohibitively expensive. I can wear contacts to offset things somewhat, but they just cause added eyestrain.

I think custom prescriptions for the xreal air 1 are around $80: https://vroptician.com/prescription-lens-inserts/nreal-air

Which I could see that being a deal breaker, but maybe it's lower than you thought

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by MarcelOlsz »

Stratoscope wrote: post #53

I don't use AR glasses, and I don't code on my phone, but I do like to use it for writing without having to carry a backpack. The keyboard I use and really like is the iClever BK05: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018K5EJCQ It is backlit and has a standard full size PC layout, including function keys and an "inverted T" cursor key section. The key feel is nearly as good as my ThinkPad. And it comes with a nice little stan…

I remember more than a decade ago I used this [0] keyboard on my HP Jornada Palm Pilot. Surprised to see it's still being sold. Folds up into a nice case.

[0] https://eshop-cy.com/en/product/targus-pa820u-stowaway-porta...

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by Philpax »

hiatus wrote: post #140
asdev wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you would have to do the same thing with an ultrawide monitor, minus the weight of the AVP

Not if it's curved.

To add to this: I have a Vision Pro and a 34" curved ultrawide. The latter is much more usable in this regard, because the effective resolution per degree is higher, which means you can keep your head static and use your eyes to look around.

By contrast, you have to use a giant screen on the Vision Pro to get equivalent resolution, which means you have to move your head. It still has its advantages (you can take it wherever you go, and the resolution of the virtual screen can be higher), but it's not yet comparable to a physical monitor, to my chagrin.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by ThrowawayP »

johnh-hn wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I'm legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it. It's been hell on my back and neck. I've only really made it work because I've modified so many things to get around…

> " ...I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it ... The part that makes it so tough is monitor arms come in standard sizes and are nowhere near long enough or extend far enough for me to sit comfortably ... "

Google for "long reach" monitor arms; some models have a reach of 30 to 40+ inches. They're not exactly cheap since they come from ergonomics vendors but they allow you to bring a large monitor as close to your face as you like and, depending on the model, clamp to a table like a standard monitor arm. I've had various models of them for a couple of decades now.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by MarcelOlsz »

seltzered_ wrote: post #153

> Can someone please make a good folding keyboard? This little $18 piece of plastic is decent for what it is, but this was the weakest part of the whole setup, and it feels like it should be the easiest. You may want to consider the Protoarc xk03 https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comments/1akevd... or adding a Bluetooth mod to the old palm folding keyboard: https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comm…

Amazing, I just linked the targus one somewhere below but it's for an HP Jornada Palm Pilot, awesome that its been revived for bluetooth!

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by Philpax »

xqcgrek2 wrote: post #85
asdev wrote: post #37

Apple is releasing Vision OS 2 which lets you do an ultrawide display on the Vision Pro. It looks phenomenal and has no lag

The Vision Pro is a joke. Way too low resolution (PPD), heavy, expensive, and over-engineered and power hungry. It's baffling how it was ever greenlit.

It's the best possible headset that could have been built with the technology at the time, but the technology at the time was insufficient for the experience that it's designed for. It still has its uses (it's incredible for watching movies and doing work in environments where you don't have a suitably sized monitor), but I agree that it's not a product anyone other than extreme enthusiasts should buy.

I certainly hope it'll get smaller, cheaper and more efficient. I would love more resolution, of course, but I'd be more than happy to keep the existing resolution if the actual ergonomics were improved.

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