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DOGE engineer's credentials found in past public leaks from info-stealer malware

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Post by trelane »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #145
trelane wrote: post #97

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> If the facts support those allegations, then absolutely yes See, here's the thing: almost everyone believes this about themselves. There is always enough difference between any given pairing of cases that one can retain their belief in their own fairness. And there is no shortage of partisan coverage that will assist you in believing that the cases are different. And it's not like there is an incentive for holding…

I get the impression that you think every American voter, including me, is partisan and a party loyalist. I won't bother trying to persuade you otherwise, beyond saying that my voting record and public comments refute that.

Not every, but way too many.

If you're truly one of the few, congrats.

I've seen the chairs switch way too many times to be anything but cynical.

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Post by halJordan »

amelius wrote: post #119
akimbostrawman wrote: post #74

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Is the point good enough to elaborate further preferably with actual proof instead of just opinion?

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then at some point you gotta assume it's a duck. No need to run a DNA test.

Its more like "i see something waddling and quacking, is it a mallard or gallwad"

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Post by trelane »

DFHippie wrote: post #49
actionfromafar wrote: post #15

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Reason: Congress has decided to not to ask that question of the Presidents Office.

Once upon a time Congress would botch something and all one could do without getting into weeds no one cared about was blame Congress. No one wanted to hear a list of 200 assorted representatives. In these partisan times one can always be more precise: it is either the Democratic caucus or the Republican caucus. Almost no one goes against their caucus. In this case, and in every case until the midterm elections, it i…

Sort of. The Dems laughing at the Reps voting out their own speaker was interesting on several levels.

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Post by psadauskas »

TrapLord_Rhodo wrote: post #102
Rexxar wrote: post #96

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> why are we commiting offensive cyber operations against a nuclear power? Maybe because they are doing it too ?

Such Biden logic that ended with us launching missiles into russia. A constant escalation with no real end in sight and always matching "tit-for-tat- instead of trying to solve the root issue. You don't think trump is actively involved in negotations with russia to stop all this madness? Don't you think that one of the first signs of good faith in negotations would be to stop attacking eachother?

You misspelled Reagan.

(Though to be fair, every president since Truman has escalated things with Russia/USSR, except maybe Clinton. Reagan just did more than most.)

> You don't think trump is actively involved in negotations[sic] with russia to stop all this madness?

No, I think Trump is doing whatever Putin wants him to do.

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Post by camel_Snake »

TrapLord_Rhodo wrote: post #95
fspoettel wrote: post #46

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I would normally second this, but the Trump admin did order a suspension of offensive cyber operations against Russia in March. So not sure you can truly rule out malice in this case.

>a suspension of offensive cyber operations against Russia in March. uhhh... why are we commiting offensive cyber operations against a nuclear power? Somewhere in your line you seems to think that it's justified? And that biden was doing the right thing by provoking a major power? Some people just want the world to burn, and when someone puts out the fire, they think that's unamerican?

Because when someone punches you in the face, you punch back?

Also I don't know why we keep referring to Russia as a major power, their GDP is about the size of Italy's, their economy is on the rocks, their military stockpile is depleted from a failed invasion of their much, much smaller neighbor.

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Post by ninalanyon »

Was he using his own computer? He should surely have been using one provided by the institution. In a properly secured system he should not have needed passwords to connect to databases, they should have been secured by something like Active Directory roles and certificates. Do any of these US institutions have any idea of proper security?

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Post by watwut »

anonymars wrote: post #77
redeux wrote: post #67

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They always do - eventually

I think the point was to refute "they are doing nothing therefore they want this to happen" Related: https://www.newsweek.com/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-retalia...

I am saying "they are doing nothing, because they want this to happen". Trump policies are exactly what conservatives wanted and pushed for. The corruption and all that is stuff they are fine with, as long as it is one of them doing it.

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

poincaredisk wrote: post #63
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #26

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The Ars Technica article is a bit confusing, if you click through to the original article, the case they make is much clearer. It's not that his credentials were found on Have I Been Pwned, which is the case for most people through no fault of their own. Instead, it's this: >But some of the datasets that Schutt is included in are much more concerning than normal data breaches because they're from stealer logs. Logs f…

>reasonably good evidence that you are doing something wrong. No need for multiple leaks, just one is enough. And I wouldn't say "do something wrong", just getting infected with an infostealer. Happens all the time.

Yes, by "doing something wrong," I meant "doing something that gets you infected with an infostealer," not something ethically wrong or illegal.

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

trelane wrote: post #149
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #140

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charitably, you have fallen for the myth that americans can only engage in politics from one of two sports-fan positions. this is not true and the sooner we stop engaging with this myth, the better. uncharitably, you are pushing a stupid narrative on purpose with ill intent.

"charitably?" "uncharitably?" Nice ad hom you got there in lieu of an actual argument. lol

i'm willing to entertain ignorance, but not malice
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