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iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by gloxkiqcza »

docdeek wrote: post #150
8note wrote: post #149

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but what if i dont want to give apple that control? i could buy different hardware, but apple is abusing their monopolist markets on order to buyout the good chips and prevent other hardware manufacturers from having access to equivalent tech. if theyre gonna buy up all of a TSMC process, i should be able to run android on an iPhone

Is there a benefit to running Android on an iPhone that would make it preferable to running it on an Android phone you buy at the same price point? Not suggesting you shouldn’t have the right to do it if you want to do it, but what would be the advantage?

> if theyre gonna buy up all of a TSMC process

Presumably a high end SoC.

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Post by digianarchist »

postalrat wrote: post #118
digianarchist wrote: post #111

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I don't believe this can be done whilst maintaining a strong sandbox.

What's in these apps that a decent web browser can't do?

In a lot of cases nothing but native experience still reigns supreme.

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Post by saurik »

redczar wrote: post #71
makeitdouble wrote: post #53

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They might, but they'll have lost the "it's for consumer's good" battle through and through. 4 years ago some people were still swallowing the security or privacy argument, and users didn't understand what they were missing. This time any of these facades will be broken to death.

I buy the security and privacy argument. I don’t want to deal with anyone other than Apple for refunds, cancellations, etc. I don’t trust anyone else to make these things easy.

Is that really worth paying ~25% more for everything, though?

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Post by shakna »

threeseed wrote: post #101
shakna wrote: post #70

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Malware and virus protection apps are already among the most installed across both Android and iOS.

At least here in Australia. Neither are in the top 50 for either Android or iOS. And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period.

Here in Australia, Samsung Device Care is in the top 50. [0] In fact, its more often installed than Netflix.

[0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.an...

> And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period.

iOS has Avast, Avira, Lookout, etc. There are many, many virus protection apps on iOS.

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Post by eviks »

dmitrygr wrote: post #14

App Store revenue was a significant source of income for Apple. Money that paid for development of iPhone and iOS. I don’t know what sort of idiotic thinking it takes to imagine that they won’t need to find another way to recapture that money. It will probably come in the form of higher costs for development licenses, or hardware. For example, absolutely nothing stops them from charging you for using the SDK. No one…

You're ignoring the fact that desire doesn't magically translate into money. If the decision holds, and Apple loses this easy pot of gold, they won't be able to replace all of it just because they want to, so it will still be a net win for developers/consumers.

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Post by pjc50 »

placardloop wrote: post #120
paxys wrote: post #8

Smart that developers are quickly updating their apps while Apple is still appealing the decision. Once users get used to the added purchase options and cheaper pricing there's no going back, regardless of what the final ruling is.

You’re right there won’t be any going back. You’re wrong about who is being smart about it. If Apple wins appeal, they’ll happily and quickly reinstate the fees. It’ll be the app developers who then get stuck paying the fees because, as you mentioned, their users will be used to it and there’s no going back.

The incredible thing is that under the anti-steering rules, removing the button and providing any explanation would result in the app being banned from the store.

The extent to which "it's our platform so you don't have any rights" has been applied is ridiculous.

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Post by pjc50 »

paxys wrote: post #59
wmf wrote: post #48

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Apple will change the rules back in seconds if the court decision is stayed. Literally billions are at stake here.

Sure, but customers aren't going to be defending their decision after that like they always do.

People in this thread are defending their right to be made to be paid 30% more and forbidden from being told how they can avoid this. It's bananas. Or astroturf.

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Post by pjc50 »

shakna wrote: post #70
threeseed wrote: post #61

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> Phones are computers now No one but irrelevant nerds think this. And the market has demonstrated this time and time again. Most people think of phones as being console-like entertainment devices. And aren't interested in scams, malware, virus checkers etc that are needed in a free for all model.

Malware and virus protection apps are already among the most installed across both Android and iOS.

.. are any of those for iOS non-fradulent?

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Post by pjc50 »

adamwk wrote: post #123
justanotheratom wrote: post #60

Apple is generally on the side of customers, but this is a clear example of how anti-customer-friendly their policy was. As a customer, I had to jump through hoops to buy a book on their premium platform.

I guess this is a side-effect where, as things stood, developers were incentivized to just forgo IAP and force users to jump through hoops to find how to give them money; and that in turn wasn’t customer friendly. But in general I much prefer IAP to whatever payment system the developer uses. It makes it so easy to do things like change or cancel any payments I have. In general I think centralized stores are customer…

Steam doesn't impose anti-competitive measures on games, though.
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