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> I believe that there is no accepted global system for "how street addresses work", but there has to be a better solution then a business owner reaching out to a friend's cousin to try to get a serious problem fixed. The friend's cousin did what they could have done themselves, use the feedback tool.
Right. I (the friend's cousin) did that. And two weeks after the changes were supposed to take effect the directions are still broken and the customers of this business are still inconvenienced. So I wrote a blog post. It is yet to be determined if that will help or not. Given that Google Maps understands the rules for street addresses in Vancouver it seems like the problem shouldn't have happened in the first place…
100%, you've done all you can! I enjoyed the article, but was just remarking that you weren't technically needed to fix the issue. Either the feedback tool works, or it doesn't.
The addresses there are notoriously local-centric, with knowledge of the area required, to find a physical location from the address.
All that being said, I wonder how long it will take people to get the memo: Don't use Goggle! For anything! Unless you like being surveilled (there's a fetish for everything, I guess)
I've used osmand on a (community build) android phone for about 8 years. It works great offline, all maps and the nav algorithm are in the phone, and it's gotten me to where I was going.
I'm hoping to migrate full time to a linux phone this year. The mega-corps have contributed to the long wait for this tech, but it does seem on the verge of finally breaking out of the lab.
Use Google Plus Codes OR Irish Eircode. street addresses are nonsensical prehistoric waste of database space.
Plus code also has the name 'Open Location Code', free to use, requires GPS or the ability to accurately generate such addresses. (Sufficient accuracy could be attained by plotting each intersection as a co-ordinate.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Location_Code
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Your comments reminds me of “ Falsehoods programmers believe about addresses” https://gist.github.com/almereyda/85fa289bfc668777fe3619298b...
Where I currently live, my street has no name, my house has no number. If a package is delivered by mail, my phone number needs to be put on the package, and the local delivery operator calls me to either pick it up, or I send my location through telegram and they deliver it to my house. It’s almost entirely impossible to order through Amazon et al using this type of system, it’s just not supported at all. The same g…
https://ci.carmel.ca.us/post/addresses
A unique characteristic of Carmel-by-the-Sea is that there are no street addresses. Properties are identified, for example, as being on the "west side of San Antonio Street, 3 houses south of 12th Avenue". In addition to this, many owners give their homes a name. The name you choose does not have to be approved or registered with the City.
The response from GM was that they did an investigation and the address is correct. I replied to the dude in whatever country but not mine that I bike there daily and they even have a clean picture on street view.
Then suddenly after a year, or if the blue, I got a Thanks To You It Is Fixed automated email.
This is a weird company.
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Plus code also has the name 'Open Location Code', free to use, requires GPS or the ability to accurately generate such addresses. (Sufficient accuracy could be attained by plotting each intersection as a co-ordinate.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Location_Code
yeah and i just realized how much of burden unicode is, in street addresses ... (is not needed in coordinate based systems.)
Re: Unicode
Some sort of baseline protocol that just flattened everything out to what's really used and left behind anything remotely like Emoji ( E.G. Just 'single pen (monochrome imprint) compatible' Unicode ) might be useful enough.
I will likely forever absolutely loath how UCS-2 ended up baked into UTF-8 and the Unicode namespace generally _forever_ so that it gets kneecapped at an arbitrary low page size and yet still majorly complicates decoders that have to map around that inanity.
I think I'd want to review the 'Advanced Sub Station' bitstream format for inspiration of useful ways to extend 'font' operations. Any sort of 'color' or 'combining' operation would be relegated to _advanced_ / extended (not required) use cases and treated as a blob associated with either a single rune/character or a special meta character that denotes a sequence length. Among a bunch of other changes that would probably also include dropping UTF-8's 'resynchronize at next character' design in favor of some other mechanism that might include a simple checksum, and could change preferred encoding length at the next resynchronization.
The real problem is that Google Maps isn't regulated like a utility. I know, I know, we all hate regulation, we love free markets, and all. But bear with me for a moment. I had a problem where Google Maps showed the wrong location for my address. I reported the issue. I was told the correction was accepted. But it wasn't — Google Maps would still show the wrong location. After doing this dance several times over a co…
I used to work mapping in EMS. It is absolutely not that simple, nor will it ever be. Yes, Google was often wrong. Sometimes I would drive out to a street to make sure I had not lost my mind. Sometimes, the local addressing authority was wrong, and I would have to prove it to them. "But it was checked!" It was checked wrong . Street numbers would be off by thousands. It would take some pointing out of obvious problem…
It was Google that did not bother to update their data for years.
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Where I currently live, my street has no name, my house has no number. If a package is delivered by mail, my phone number needs to be put on the package, and the local delivery operator calls me to either pick it up, or I send my location through telegram and they deliver it to my house. It’s almost entirely impossible to order through Amazon et al using this type of system, it’s just not supported at all. The same g…
What's preventing some local authority from just naming your street? And what's preventing you and your neighbors from having a meeting, agreeing on a numbering convention, and putting street numbers on your house? I guess it would be a bit silly/meaningless if you don't have your street name.
Local authority doesn’t care, because it’s a very western problem. Locals rarely have problems with it, and use “go left the second street after the big tree near the market, and then it’s the third house on the right”.
Local people generally don’t use navigation apps like Google Maps, they don’t know how to use it.
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> it’s probably not feasible for a global product like Google Maps to understand and encode every regional system Does it have to encode them all? Why not start out with one then at least Google Maps is a little better for some. Besides that, how many systems could there be? There are only something like 10,000 cities on the planet. That sounds like the kind of task Google is built to handle.
Wait what? I live in a small country of ~2mio pop, and we have approximately 6000 settlements with streets and street addresses and many different standards of numberings, depending on many reason, mostly historic. Technically yes, a few thousand systems could be programmed into some google processing engine, but you'd have to manually classify every road to set the correct system, and even there, you'd never know wh…