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Re: The many ways tarrifs will hit electronics

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

testing22321 wrote: post #127
ks2048 wrote: post #42

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Trump now has knobs he alone (unless congress stops him) can turn to save or wreck any country, even specific businesses and people (i.e. those that don’t surrender more power to him). For a power obsessed, extreme narcissist, that is worth more than economic success.

The only country he is wrecking is the US. Every other country can still happily trade with every other country. Sure, for some countries it will hurt short term, but long term they will all just increase trade between each other and do perfectly fine. China’s exports to the US are only 7% of their GDP. Even if all that went to zero, they’ll still have the highest GDP soon enough.

> The only country he is wrecking is the US. Every other country can still happily trade with every other country.

I mean, sortof. Unfortunately both the EU/China/everyone else has been running an export led growth strategy which relies on the US consumer buying their exports.

So, buckle up everyone, it's gonna be a wild ride (and maybe read Trade Wars are Class Wars to understand where the administration may be coming from).

Re: The many ways tarrifs will hit electronics

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

Yeul wrote: post #146
testing22321 wrote: post #127

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The only country he is wrecking is the US. Every other country can still happily trade with every other country. Sure, for some countries it will hurt short term, but long term they will all just increase trade between each other and do perfectly fine. China’s exports to the US are only 7% of their GDP. Even if all that went to zero, they’ll still have the highest GDP soon enough.

I don't think a lot of Americans know this: the EU is China's biggest trade partner. And the EU has free trade in it's DNA.

cough mostly protectionism, I'm afraid cough.

The EU roleplays as free traders (for exports), but if you look at their actual behaviour (particularly around agriculture) then you can see that they're also a big fan of protectionism at times.

Re: The many ways tarrifs will hit electronics

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Post by gspetr »

Yeul wrote: post #146
testing22321 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only country he is wrecking is the US. Every other country can still happily trade with every other country. Sure, for some countries it will hurt short term, but long term they will all just increase trade between each other and do perfectly fine. China’s exports to the US are only 7% of their GDP. Even if all that went to zero, they’ll still have the highest GDP soon enough.

I don't think a lot of Americans know this: the EU is China's biggest trade partner. And the EU has free trade in it's DNA.

Free trade? They put tariffs on China in October 2024, before the US Election.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/eu-vot...

Re: The many ways tarrifs will hit electronics

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Post by sokoloff »

cantrecallmypwd wrote: post #143
sokoloff wrote: post #58

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> Just to get the numbers right: Yes, we should always strive to do that. I haven’t gotten something from Aliexpress “sent through the international postal network” in a very long time (15 months or more and I think probably several years). Most everything I get comes from an Aliexpress-run line haul (which brokers the export and import customs clearance) and then is delivered by a local carrier (usually UniUni or an…

Cainaio is used for AliExpress Choice and Standard Shipping, part of AliBaba also. In USPS, it usually shows up as Albatross America. I went on an electronic parts AE binge prior to tariffs.

You weren’t alone.

I’d be very curious to see the shape of the curve of small parcel orders (or just overall AE volume) in the 60 days leading up to April 30.

Re: The many ways tarrifs will hit electronics

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Post by bloomingeek »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #134
bloomingeek wrote: post #133

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Er, the "the" is in my sentence. You either don't understand tariffs or you don't understand "the point" of tariffs. Let's clear this up, shall we? (And don't try to wiggle out of your original statement, please.)

wing-_-nuts 10 hours ago | prev | next [–] I've honestly never understood the point of the tariffs. wing-_-nuts said it, diego_molta quoted it, then you quoted it again and went off about it for some reason, ignoring the 'the' in the process. Have you considered decaf?

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Re: The many ways tarrifs will hit electronics

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

bloomingeek wrote: post #155
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #134

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wing-_-nuts 10 hours ago | prev | next [–] I've honestly never understood the point of the tariffs. wing-_-nuts said it, diego_molta quoted it, then you quoted it again and went off about it for some reason, ignoring the 'the' in the process. Have you considered decaf?

Yes, I know. Decaf can be quite disappointing at first. But you seem a little high strung, and the reduction in caffeine intake might be good for you.

Re: The many ways tarrifs will hit electronics

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Post by mystified5016 »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #15

I've honestly never understood the point of the tariffs. 1. They're massively unpopular and likely to cause electoral losses in '26 and '28 which will immediately undo them 2. Consumers know the tariffs will likely cause a recession, and will likely be undone in 4y. Pretty much every major spending purchase that can be delayed, will. 3. Companies know 4y is not enough time to invest in new supply chains or new manufa…

I'd wager that some people in this administration are banking on there not being a next administration

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Post by sagarm »

int_19h wrote: post #148
krapp wrote: post #147

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He's not a king, he's CEO In Chief. This is the inevitable result of a society which pathologically mistrusts government on principle, but which worships celebrity and free market capitalism. It's surprising the pretense of being a Republic lasted as long as it did.

If we actually had pathological mistrust of government, Trump simply wouldn't have the power to do all the crazy shit he's doing. But we don't. What we do have is pathological mistrust of our political opponents in the government. More so on the right, but it's fairly pervasive. So "small government" gets used as a way to trip up your opposition when it's in power, but as soon as you get the reins, it's full steam ah…

He only has that power because Congress is allowing him to abuse "emergency" powers. Authority to set taxes lies with Congress.

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Post by Whoppertime »

gamblor956 wrote: post #140
dumbledoren wrote: post #137

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> nuking the economy, neutering the Pentagon, trashing public health, isolating the US from tourists and skilled immigrants, walking public education back at least a century, killing the next generation of R&D, murdering rational climate policy with a coal-powered chainsaw, and handing government software and data to enemy powers. How is that any different from what has been going on in the past 40 years... Biden kep…

This comment is so disingenous it's almost pointless to respond to. Previous presidents did things because they genuinely believed that what they were doing was the right thing for America based on their deeply-held beliefs. Trump has no beliefs. He does not act from rational thought. He does whatever makes him feel good in the immediate moment, without regard to the consequences or even his own prior words and deeds…

This comment is built on mind reading. Like you can tell what Joe Biden or Barack Obama genuinely believed, and what Donald Trump or George Bush were pretending to believe. No evidence can convince you one way or another because you've already read their minds and can tell who is genuine and who's an interloper
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