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Re: Kagi for Kids

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Kagi seems like a cool company - I'm not a customer yet. I'd like there to be technology companies I can trust - perhaps like Kagi. I have been really happy with NextDNS though. My kids, not so much. But hey ... that's parenting.

I've moved from NextDNS to ControlD. NextDNS seems like it's been abandoned--good luck getting any level of support--and I've been really happy with the feature set of ControlD.

Re: Kagi for Kids

#152
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it's completely unsurprising that a child raised with no spiritual grounding would be interested in a book that teaches how to live and attempts to answer the questions that rationalists and atheists have nothing satisfying to say about. How does one live a good life? Every religion tries to answer that question. Has the GP sufficiently replaced religion with something else to help their child answer that question? O…

This may come as a shock to you, but morality and ethics do not presuppose religion. The rationalists and atheists don't have to replace religion with anything, they just don't need to invoke fear of the wrath of an imaginary sky father to justify being a good person.

I can't find the news/study at the moment but read recently about the opposite being the case: belief in a Christian god / such higher power resulting in weakened feelings of guilt from complicity or participation in wrongdoing

Re: Kagi for Kids

#153
post #79
post #66

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An interest in something that has ha a huge and pervasive influence. Even if you are an atheist who would never reed it, if you are from a historicist Christian culture it has shaped your worldview.This is very well argued in Dominion by Tom Holland.

I'm an atheist who has read large parts of the Bible, not even to understand history, but to simply try to understand the (ostensible) motivations of current leaders and constituents in politics today. I haven't read all of it, a lot of the Bible is a pretty dry read, but I have read most of it, and it has been at least a little illuminating to see what people will use for justification of stuff.

You've read more than those leaders and constituents

Re: Kagi for Kids

#154
post #34

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Feels like in my youth the biggest risk was stumbling on some freaky gore/porn that scarred you, but somehow that doesn't seem as bad as the risk of getting hooked on dopamine-optimized brainrot, alt-right propaganda, or micro transaction focused games.

Yep, that's exactly my fear. The brain rot zombification of our society. How do I stop my kids from getting suckered into an endless scrolling doom loop?

Pretty much every parent I know does not allow their preteens and younger unsupervised tablet/phone use because the internet is so bad for them at that age. Typically they allow a curated set of content during specific times, and devices are physically removed from the children's environment afterward.

Re: Kagi for Kids

#155

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

I had a lot of frustrations with the Youtube Kids app until I realized that if, when setting it up, rather than choosing the appropriate age range, you picked the "custom" (or whatever it was, it was annoyingly hidden all the way to the right, so you can't even see it at first), you are able to white list channels and videos, rather than just blacklist. Why this feature is hidden behind a different age selector rathe…

Now only if they added parental controls for the standard Youtube app to block Shorts completely.

My kids aren't allowed to use TikTok and now Google decided to shove it in Youtube - and make it impossible to block.

Re: Kagi for Kids

#156

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

May I ask how are you dealing with the hole Youtube left in his life? I grew up on the internet, but seeing the effects it had on me and the world I don't want the same for my kids. The problem is I don't even know what to do in my own free time if not browsing Youtube or playing games, imagine a kid.

PBS and whatever equivalent there is in your country.

There is a metric ton of professionally made non-commercial content for kids.

Re: Kagi for Kids

#157
post #79
post #66

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An interest in something that has ha a huge and pervasive influence. Even if you are an atheist who would never reed it, if you are from a historicist Christian culture it has shaped your worldview.This is very well argued in Dominion by Tom Holland.

I'm an atheist who has read large parts of the Bible, not even to understand history, but to simply try to understand the (ostensible) motivations of current leaders and constituents in politics today. I haven't read all of it, a lot of the Bible is a pretty dry read, but I have read most of it, and it has been at least a little illuminating to see what people will use for justification of stuff.

I do not mean that no atheist would read the Bible, but that even the sort of atheist who would not read the Bible has had their world view shaped by Christianity (including the Bible). I am a Christian and I have read bits of other religions' scriptures and a lot of other religions' mythology.

How do you inform yourself about reading the Bible? Conflicts about interpretation, applicability, cultural context, personal context, translation, true original text, and even canon? I find the biggest problem (with both Biblical literalists and atheists!) is the tendency to read it as one book by one author. It is not even one genre! Or are you just interested in how a literal reading influences American politics?

If you are talking about people using the Bible in a political context, most of the time they are misusing it. Not only are they cherry-picking but Jesus was apolitical ("give to Caesar what is Caesar's"). The book I mentioned argues that this evolved into separation of church and state (a concept that has been far more successful in historically Christian countries).

Re: Kagi for Kids

#158
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It was not that the kid was reading the bible that scared the parent but that they took a sudden deep(obsessive?) interest in something after only being exposed to it on Youtube. I have kids and I too would be concerned if they suddenly took interest in a topic. Not that long ago two twelve year old girls murdered their friend because "Slenderman". Religious topics can lead to radicalization and/or cults.

Purely in the interest of pedantry: I think it was attempted murder, I think the girl lived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man_stabbing Not that it changes your point at all, which I think I completely agree with.

Yes, you are right!

Re: Kagi for Kids

#159
post #66

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It was not that the kid was reading the bible that scared the parent but that they took a sudden deep(obsessive?) interest in something after only being exposed to it on Youtube. I have kids and I too would be concerned if they suddenly took interest in a topic. Not that long ago two twelve year old girls murdered their friend because "Slenderman". Religious topics can lead to radicalization and/or cults.

An interest in something that has ha a huge and pervasive influence. Even if you are an atheist who would never reed it, if you are from a historicist Christian culture it has shaped your worldview.This is very well argued in Dominion by Tom Holland.

My family went to church during my late elementary school years and I have been baptized and confirmed in the Methodist tradition, however I would more describe myself as agnostic.

I take my children to church a couple times a year, so they can experience it. I would take them more often but we live in a area where churches are more culturally influential and function like social/status clubs, which means that there are more people who are there to be seen rather than there to because of agreement or sharing an ideology.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an atheist who has read large parts of the Bible, not even to understand history, but to simply try to understand the (ostensible) motivations of current leaders and constituents in politics today. I haven't read all of it, a lot of the Bible is a pretty dry read, but I have read most of it, and it has been at least a little illuminating to see what people will use for justification of stuff.

I do not mean that no atheist would read the Bible, but that even the sort of atheist who would not read the Bible has had their world view shaped by Christianity (including the Bible). I am a Christian and I have read bits of other religions' scriptures and a lot of other religions' mythology. How do you inform yourself about reading the Bible? Conflicts about interpretation, applicability, cultural context, persona…

> Or are you just interested in how a literal reading influences American politics?

Yes. A lot of conservatives claim that the Bible is the literal inerrant word of God.

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