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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by ZiiS »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

Well I am a webdev who more or less exclusivly uses Kagi so I guess I support that point; but I also havn't bothered raising any sites and I would guess a lot of people don't.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by Brajeshwar »

Semaphor wrote: post #119
Brajeshwar wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, only us HN members are members of Kagi.

You are (maybe) joking, but I’d guess there’s an extremely high overlap between HN users and Kagi users. I converted someone from a metal discord I’m in to Kagi with a promo gift last year, and he’s also the only HN user on the server ;)

“Many a true word is spoken in jest.”

;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many_a_true_word_is_spoken_in_...

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by graemep »

kjs3 wrote: post #77
omoikane wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently Pinterest has half a billion users[1], presumably significant number of those appreciate those search results. I am also going to guess that there is little overlap between those 500M users with HN's 5M users[2] or Kagi's 43K users[3]. So while those results-gated-behind-logins might seem annoying to us, we are in the minority. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/463353/pinterest-global-... [2] https:/…

Man I hate to say you're completely right, but you're completely right. I remember years back being in some social thing where someone was railing on social media and pontificated "absolutely noone wants what Facebook is", and I grudgingly had to retort " you don't want Facebook, but a half a billion people (at the time) obviously do". Read the room.

Many of us are reluctant users. There because our friends our communities are. I would love FB to go away.

I am the admin of two FB groups, both UK home education related (one about exams and qualifications, the other for single parents). I do it because I feel I should help the community (especially as the crappy commercial groups that target the same audience), which is made up of non-technically inclined, mostly middle aged women - i.e. FB's core demographic. I cannot remember the other demographic nos offhand, but its 95% women in the exams group, and 98% in the other (and both have 1% other/did not say), and the age profile reflects the fact that people have school age (or just over, in the 16 to 18 age group) children.

I had actually planned to try and push the community towards forums, but with the Online Safety Act in force that is not a risk I am inclined to take.

My cousin runs a family group where she shares photos and wishes people happy birthday. I would prefer her to use WhatsApp but she is the one running it.

A lot of my friends post family news, important things like births and deaths and weddings on FB.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by vladde »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

I have a hard time figuring out how to pitch a paid search engine to "normal people", when Google works and is free.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by mid-kid »

knowknow wrote: post #44

Interesting that TikTok is the 3rd highest on the block list (considering Pinterest links as one). I wonder why since it’s not often that I get it as a search result on Google . Is TikTok showing up as a result common on kagi or is TikTok just that bad?

What bothers me the most is getting an image result I want the full res version of, and being redirected to a discover page that doesn't have what I wanted

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by theshrike79 »

knowknow wrote: post #44

Interesting that TikTok is the 3rd highest on the block list (considering Pinterest links as one). I wonder why since it’s not often that I get it as a search result on Google . Is TikTok showing up as a result common on kagi or is TikTok just that bad?

Requires login to actually do anything, like Twitter.

Making both completely useless as sources

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by taskforcegemini »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

I'm not sure about numbered, all I see is great arguments to try it and thus pay for it.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by doublerabbit »

whazor wrote: post #149
globular-toast wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would mean that if they are operating at a loss and hoping to capture more of the market later. But if they're profitable then the main danger is a competitor coming along. Growth mindset is a big part of our sick society, unfortunately. It's the only thing our politicians like to talk about, after all. Being a stable business delivering value is as good as dead.

Kagi is the only paid search engine and they are already profitable: https://blog.kagi.com/what-is-next-for-kagi I think the bigger danger is the competition around AI chat assistants. There are other paid assistants, but you already see that even the paid assistants are getting trained to promote certain corporations.

Kagi were an early adopter of LLMs. You can use Kagi assistant for AI needs.
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