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Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Can we please just go back to having some sort of Debian-based GNU/Linux on a smartphone. Just create a really great mobile interface on top of that. The more I learn about Android, the more I think the whole thing is a waste of time.

Here you go: https://mobian-project.org/ postmarketOS is based on Alpine Linux: https://postmarketos.org/

Still there is yet to be a device that is completely supported, see the following section which is currently empty:

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Main

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

#153
I was there and applaud when Google shared their "Don't be evil" motto. Everybody used to absolutely hate "M$" at the time.

How naive we were. We never realized that "Don't be evil" was not a choice, it something that natural happens to a public company. Today it would feel so much of quixotism for a company were to to come out and say "Don't be evil".

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Hmm while this could be sold as just to prevent leaks (which occasionally happen), I think this is more likely a first step to closing the source, in light of the EU messing up their open source monetisation strategy. Well, more like the 5th step really. They already moved a ton of functionality into Google Play Services, and discontinued a load of the open source stock apps like Calendar.

A classic Ars story I always like linking in discussions like these: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on...

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

#155
post #152

the definition of open: “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make” - Andy Rubin This has really stood the test of time...

It's funny because this only works on a single device, the Android emulator, and not even first-party Nexus and Pixel devices without first downloading hundreds of megabytes of proprietary blobs.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

#156

This headline really is misleading. The source will still be released, it just means that the work leading up to a release will be in private. IMO, there's nothing wrong with that, since it's likely that a lot of the intermediate com mediates are likely just noise.

I think the determinant will be how transparently this process is maintained.

Right - Google has been less than stellar with Chromium with ad revenue motivations behind manifest v3. One can only assume that other changes are being pushed and it'll be too late to fight when the OS ships before or same day as source.

As others say, it breaks contributions and any chance that other forks will keep up.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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As much as I - a Pixel 7 (GrapheneOS) user - would hate that, doing so would essentially put Android on equal footing as iOS and would give me a serious reason to consider switching to an iPhone. Apple's hardware is just so much sleeker, faster, and better than Google's mediocre Pixel line.

Maybe I'm just a tech philistine but I find my Pixel 8a and my wife's iPhone to be basically indistinguishable in any meaningful way.

In my understanding, animations cannot be fully disabled on iOS (please tell me if I am wrong) while they can on Android. This leads to much better usability since you don't have to wait after every interaction.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Can someone just fork it? Like MySQL was forked into MariaDB?

Yes: https://illumos.org/

This doesn’t appear mobile oriented, or is this an open Solaris fork?

I suppose lineageOS is the closest thing for Android tho from what I understand it is built upon AOSP

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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They might be cooking up their own silicon, like Apple did when transitioning from the A-series chips to the M1. If that's the case, they'd definitely want to keep any low-level system tweaks or new APIs under wraps.

This whole situation also reminds me of the Manifest V3 drama with Chromium. They might be planning something similar and want to avoid the early headaches of public criticism.

Or maybe they're doing a bigger overhaul of Android's core, changing how apps can communicate and control each other (e.g., computer-user, Operator)!

Idk, I dnt want to be cynical fingers crossed.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

#160
post #149

Too bad. There should be a proper open Linux + Wayland for mobile, not Android Frankenstein anyway.

That's what https://plasma-mobile.org is supposed to be.

But the problem is there is yet to be a single device that has every hardware feature working %100...see https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Main

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