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Claude can now search the web

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Re: Claude can now search the web

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Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

Google search is crap. It seems to be a sentiment among many HNers, but is it really that bad? I mostly use it for programming, so documentation/forums and it works out greatly. For some queries it even returns personal blogs (which people seem to bash google for not happening). Of course there are some queries that return purely AI blogspam, but reformatting the query with a bit more thought usually solves it. I won…

I mean, for those of us who used it since way before the '20s, it's not really a sentiment - it's a fact. You used to be able to type in 3 words and whatever error message your stack trace was showing, and the first 3 links returned were very likely a definitive source to solving your problem.Written by a human, and believe my word for it - it was much better back then than the crap you get out of torturing whatever your LLM of choice is. However the weird MBas took it over to and did exactly what you are describing - forced people to spend more time "engaging with the platform" (to increase the revenue). As you can see, they seem to have achieved this goal, and we all now spend time reformatting our queries as they wanted us to, and yes Google search is complete crap.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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post #39
post #10

I wonder if it will actually respect the robots.txt this time.

I don't think it should. If a user asks the AI to read the web for them, it should read the web for them. This isn't a vacuum charged with crawling the web, it's an adhoc GET request.

Many if not most websites are paid for by eyeballs not by get requests. A bot is a bot is a bot. Respect robots.txt or expect to have your IPs banned.

Re: Claude can now search the web

#155
You know what Claude can't do? Successfully vibe me a solution to:

""" i need a bashrc command that will map the alias "logg" to open macvim to the file at ~/log.txt, then execute the macro defined by "z" """

Note z ends with user in insert mode, Claude provides solution below but puts me in edit mode. (I still have to press "i")

alias loggg='mvim ~/log.txt -c "normal \z"'

Re: Claude can now search the web

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That could very well be because the jobs are effectively useless. By no means does that mean the people are, nor is what the income allows them to do. But most jobs sure do seem pointless.

The work is mysterious and important

There's only one room I haven't been to yet, and today it had a name on it.

Re: Claude can now search the web

#157
So, referring specifically to the example they show on the front-page, what value does this bring actually? The best example they could come up with is Typescript migration ? Really? Weren't the LLMs supposed to be a superior alternative to searching the web? Why do we need to produce more CO2 to do the same we could have done at the fraction of the cost, of course at the time when the google search was still working?

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google search is crap. It seems to be a sentiment among many HNers, but is it really that bad? I mostly use it for programming, so documentation/forums and it works out greatly. For some queries it even returns personal blogs (which people seem to bash google for not happening). Of course there are some queries that return purely AI blogspam, but reformatting the query with a bit more thought usually solves it. I won…

Is google search bad? Click here to find ten reasons why it is bad and 10 reasons why you should still use it. Yes, it is that bad. Website of Nike? Website of Starbucks? Likely position number one. Every product, category etc., e.g. what rice cooker should I buy? Is diseased by link and affiliate spam. There is a reason why people put +reddit on search terms.

> Website of Nike? Website of Starbucks? Likely position number one.

...if you're blocking ads and/or they're paying big advertisement bucks.

Re: Claude can now search the web

#160

It says a lot about their product vision and intended market that the example query is typescript migration question. Do they not care about typical search users? Only developers?

Do users pay for LLMs? I haven't seen much concrete data indicating that they do. I don't think the casual utility gains of LLMs have gotten average people so much value that they're paying $20/mo+ for it. Certainly not for search in the age of [doom] scrolling.

I would guess that Anthropic wants developers talking about how good Claude is in their company Slack channels. That's the smart thing to do.

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