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Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees

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Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees

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moate wrote: post #97
dietr1ch wrote: post #35

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Side rant. Cut the Latinx crap please, Latinos don't really feel represented by the force-fed "inclusive" name that straight up goes against their gendered languages. It's overriding the language to seem more inclusive in English

Just to be clear on this one: are you Latino? Why do you speak for them? I have latino friends who insist on that language, some who don't give a fuck, and latinx friends who own that jab at the patriarchal idea of forcing gender on genderless objects or groups. Put another way: The NAACP didn't change their name, but if you called most black folk I know "colored" they'd punch you in the throat. Language is fluid and…

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Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees

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umbra07 wrote: post #144
skyyler wrote: post #110

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>Whites are a minority at Google Is that true? Do white men at google face systemic oppression?

when did we decide to redefine 'minority' as "faces systemic oppression"?

I asked a follow up question.

I don't even believe that white men aren't the largest demographic at google.

But even if they aren't, do they face systemic oppression because of this?

Why is it relevant that they aren't a majority?

Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees

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Post by footlose_3815 »

IX-103 wrote: post #131
footlose_3815 wrote: post #61

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The people who are running the diversity stuff at Google when I was there were very "Eye-for-an-eye". Some dumb stuff that happened while I was at Google: * There was a ERG for literally every single race except White people. "Just join one of the others" was what they told me. * During an onboarding learning exercise because I was merely showing initiative before the rest of the group. "Ok everyone here's my idea".…

That's very different from Google when I was there (both before and after the Damore memo). 1. There were ERGs for old people, young people, people who brought dogs to work, Irish people, Jewish people, etc. I can't imagine why they would say you couldn't create one for the group you wanted. 2. One thing hot-shot programmers fresh out of college need to learn is that while their opinion is valued, they need to listen…

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Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees

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Post by jlawson »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #124
jlawson wrote: post #108

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Google is like 45% white, 45% Asian. Asians have an ERG. If Whites want to make an ERG, why can't they? What is special about Whites that they must be prevented from doing the thing that literally all others have done?

> Asians have an ERG. Google doesn't exist in a vacuum, but in a broader culture (e.g. America). If you're coming from an Asian country, you might still feel alienated or simply want to connect with people who intrinsically understand your culture. That said, the Asian makeup of Google has increased significantly over the years. I wonder how that has impacted the participation rate in its ERG versus when it was origi…

> The dominant culture is essentially the "default" and is somewhat "self-reinforcing", so generally has no need of an identity-based support group. Thus, when the dominant culture does establish an identity-based group, it tends to take on a different meaning.

You're being so indirect we're forced to guess at what you mean. Can you please say clearly why you think White must be actually prevented from doing this, when all other groups have already done so?

Not why you think they don't need one - why do you think they must be prevented, even if some of them want to start one?

Re: Google to pay $28M to settle claims it favoured white and Asian employees

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Post by jlawson »

skyyler wrote: post #152
umbra07 wrote: post #144

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when did we decide to redefine 'minority' as "faces systemic oppression"?

I asked a follow up question. I don't even believe that white men aren't the largest demographic at google. But even if they aren't, do they face systemic oppression because of this? Why is it relevant that they aren't a majority?

Google's own figures say Whites are not the largest group.

Yes, Whites face systemic oppression by any definition of the word. For example, hiring systems set up that systemically prefer others over them.

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