Somehow doesn't inspire me knowing how "fast" things happen in Europe ...
Given that the second!! goal is to be compliant to EU AI regulations, which are incredibly vague.
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#152Honestly, the cynicism in the comments here is extremely disappointing. EU citizens badly need AI systems that are open and privacy-respecting. Getting together this rather large coalition of experts with quite some money and (importantly) access to compute power is a nice first step. Let them play around, train some models, fail-and-get-up-again, start over, write papers and hopefully get some useful output. Remembe…
> badly need AI systems that are open and privacy-respecting.
There are plenty AI systems that are open and privacy-respecting. In fact, any model you run on your own hardware is privacy-respecting. And open, for whatever that means.
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#153Compliance is the second most important feature they have to reveal, seriously?
Especially given how notoriously bad are the EU AI regulations.
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#155Will it only respond with a vacation message from June to September?
The team is currently skiing for two weeks so we'll have to get back to you on that.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s like telling someone you’re planning on starting a diet and getting congratulated.
So tell us how NASA is doing this decades long plans, they should keep them secret? Should HNers vote on what NASA should do ?
See Artemis for an answer to how NASA is doing. They’re in trouble. Post Apollo they became very ineffective at big space projects. I say that with respect as an aviator who has benefited much from their past and ongoing work.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Homepage: https://sites.google.com/view/eurollm Deliverables: - A series of models of different sizes for optimal effectiveness and efficiency (1B, 9B and 22B) trained on 4T tokens - A multimodal model which can process and understand speech or text input - Full project codebase available to the public with detailed data and model descriptions I can't find the codebase yet though
Results don't seem that bad for 9b https://huggingface.co/blog/eurollm-team/eurollm-9b
I've been running it with Ollama, it's actually pretty good for working with text in Latvian (and other EU languages). I'd be hard pressed to find another model of a similar size that's good at it, for example: https://huggingface.co/spaces/openGPT-X/european-llm-leaderb...
This won't be relevant to most people here, but it's cool to see even the smaller languages getting some love, instead of getting garbage outputs from Qwen (some versions of which are otherwise pretty good for programming) and anything below Llama 70B, or maybe looking at Gemma as a middle ground.
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#158Open but to what degree. Not saying that I will but can I generate hate speech with it. If not why not. What about other “deemed illegal by non elected officials” activities?
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#159https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42922989
Thanks! Macroexpanded:
Open Euro LLM: Open LLMs for Transparent AI in Europe - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42922989 - Feb 2025 (279 comments)
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is truly in accordance with european values, where we reward participation and proclamation. Yes. In my experience the government is happy with "looks good doesn't work" as long as it truly looks good.
Thank goodness we have startup culture in the US, instead we can have “looks bad, doesn’t work, but Microsoft bought it so…”
Microsoft is certainly much better at judging the value of a software than any european administration.