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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by mannyv »

new_vienna wrote: post #42

It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

This is aimed at the lower end of the market: the pre/postpaid MVNOs and deal hunters. And for kids.

The new modem is interesting. How much power around the world is being wasted because Qualcomm's code sucks? Apparently gigawatts per day.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by JBiserkov »

ksec wrote: post #75

It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

$599, same as the Mac Mini M4 :-)

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by Analemma_ »

usui wrote: post #122

Apple leans its weight heavily on controversial smartphone changes and defines trends for the rest of the industry, even when it's not the first company to do so. When it removed the headphone jack, introduced the screen notch, or added a camera bump, everyone followed afterward despite the grumbling. So keeping that in mind, regarding the modem, I remember prior comments about it being near-impossible or extremely d…

I don't think anyone thought it was literally impossible, just really, really hard and with a ton of corner cases and micro-optimizations necessary. But remember, they've been at this for a long time now: they bought Intel's modem business in 2019 and Intel presumably had several years worth of work on it before that. I guess this is the year when they've ground out enough of the bugs to at least ship it on a non-flagship device.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by giancarlostoro »

ksec wrote: post #75

It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

> The lineup is a little strange.

They have Macs they call Macbook Airs, but their Macbooks look like "Air" Macbooks, they really should have swapped the names on those models long ago.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by walterbell »

GeekyBear wrote: post #143
ksec wrote: post #75

It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

> The most interesting part is of course the Modem. In addition, they are said to have replaced the WiFi/Bluetooth chip with one developed in-house. > Apple Inc.’s ambitious plan to create in-house components for its devices will include switching to a homegrown chip for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connections starting next year, a move that will replace some parts currently provided by Broadcom Inc. https://www.bloomberg.co…

Hopefully these new cellular, wifi and bluetooth basebands can avoid the zero-day fame of their predecessors.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

tomduncalf wrote: post #56
parsimo2010 wrote: post #39

Apparently the camera is "2 in 1" that does 2x zoom with "optical quality" but they never actually say it's true optical zoom. I'm guessing that it's just digital zoom with some fancy processing. Does anyone know for sure?

It's a 12mp crop of a 48mp sensor, so it's not digital zoom but it is a crop. It's just that that crop is still of good resolution.

> It's a 12mp crop of a 48mp sensor, so it's not digital zoom but it is a crop.

I'm curious what you think digital zoom is if not cropping.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by crazygringo »

kylec wrote: post #134
crazygringo wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's basically 6% longer, wider, and thicker. I like small phones. 6% doesn't seem all that different from the current SE. The fact that all that space seems to be going to battery life does seem nice...

Those 6% increases compound together though to create something with 20% more volume, that is pretty substantial

I've never heard anybody complain about volume. Just width/height.

I mean, isn't everyone here on HN always making fun of Apple's supposedly unnecessary obsession with thinness? Now it's a teensy bit thicker.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by modeless »

kemayo wrote: post #18

Let's see... it's replacing the SE, which is no longer on Apple's website. It's more expensive than the SE, at $599 vs $429. It's a pretty substantial hardware upgrade over the SE, including something like 75% more battery life by Apple's numbers, but it's also noticeably bigger. Apple's own comparison tool is useful: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-16e,i...

Thank you. This press release seems specifically designed to discourage this type of comparison.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by whycome »

doctoboggan wrote: post #20

Is this a replacement for the "SE" line? It seems similar to the previous SE models in that it's cheaper, uses an older body, and is released in an off month. The marketing copy in the OP also compares it to the older SE phones. I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple.

It’s funny that the marketing for this is about introducing a new member of the family. But it doesn’t also mention that one other member has been disowned/excommunicated

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by selectodude »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #145
jayrot wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The obvious problem with that is that 90hz is just as good as 120hz for 95% of people. (60hz is as good as 90hz for probably 70%)

I had an iPhone 13 Pro before downgrading to the 13 Mini. One of the reasons I bought the Pro was for the higher refresh screen, and while it's obviously noticeable when using it, it's not something I've ever missed even once.

I have the opposite issue - dragging my finger across a 60hz screen is immediately noticeable. I’m jealous of you.
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