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Post by antirez »

albertzeyer wrote: post #130

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/elon-musks-terrifying-visi... I'm not sure if this was a very bad joke by Elon, or if Grok 3 is really biased like that.

Karpathy, which is IMHO a serious and balanced person, lamented that it looks too censored (see recent tweets). Elon Musk is (for me) a very scary person, and it is important to evaluate AI safety (but I believe that the safety that matters in AI is of a different kind), yet to listen to Gary Marcus does not make any sense: it's just an extremely biased person that is riding the anti AI wave.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by cm2187 »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #46
kristofferR wrote: post #2

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I find it interesting that these two descriptions of news are treated as equivalent, where I think they're almost opposing: "raw, unfiltered news" "real, trustworthy news" Raw and unfiltered almost cannot be "news" (by my definition of what I go seeking for as "news"). X provides raw, unfiltered information. But real, trustworthy news almost requires filtration in order to be deemed trustworthy.

I think the theory is that community notes are a more neutral way to tag bad information, compared to whatever the new york time and fox news are doing.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by tw1984 »

Karpathy believes that this is at o1-pro level[1].

This again proves that OpenAI simply has no tech moat whatsoever. Elon's $97 billion offer for OpenAI last week was reasonable given that xAI already have something just a few months behind - it would probably be faster for xAI to catch up with o3 than going through all those paperworks and lawyer talks required for such an acquisition.

Elon also has some huge up-hand here -

Elon and his mum are extremely popular in China, it would be easier for him to acquire Chinese AI engineers. He can offer xAI/XSpace/Neurallink shares to those best AI engineers who'd prefer some kind of almost guaranteed 8 figure return in long run.

Good luck to OpenAI investors who still believe that OpenAI worth anything more than $100 billion.

[1] https://x.com/karpathy/status/1891720635363254772

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by a-dub »

userbinator wrote: post #116
a-dub wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is correct. "open source" means everything required to recreate from scratch and improve. not "here's a massive binary, an interpreter script and permission."

How can you even "open source" an AI model without all of the, presumably copyrighted and extremely voluminous, training data?

that's how you know when you actually have agi, when you have something that you don't have to shovel in every written word known to man to make it work, but rather can seed it with a few dense public domain knowledge compendia and have it derive everything else for itself from those first principles- possibly going through several stages of from scratch training and regeneration.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by llm_trw »

albertzeyer wrote: post #130

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/elon-musks-terrifying-visi... I'm not sure if this was a very bad joke by Elon, or if Grok 3 is really biased like that.

Without seeing the context window you have no idea what the Ai was working on. It could have literally been told to mock and belittle "the information" in every reply. Something that deepseek r1 is exceedingly good at.

Mr Musk, we can't afford a shitpost gap between communist and capitalist AIs!

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by RobinL »

qingcharles wrote: post #59
rendang wrote: post #10

Grok has gotten to the top of one benchmark: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1891706264800936307 It's been said before but it is great news for consumers that there's so much competition in the LLM space. If it's hard for any one player to get daylight between them & the 2nd best alternative, hopefully that means one monopolistic firm isn't going to be sucking up all the value created by these things

I've spent the last hour testing it and I'm blown away. And this is coming from a very hardcore user of OpenAI/Claude products on a daily basis. It passed every goofy test I have for writing articles which involves trying to surface arcane obscure details. (it certainly means however they are scraping the Web they are doing a good job here) It made the database code I wrote over the last week with o3/o1/GPT4o/Claude3…

Apologies for possibly stupid question but where can you use it right now? Just on 'direct chat' on https://lmarena.ai/ or is there a better alternative? Or do you have early access?

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by bootywizard »

albertzeyer wrote: post #130

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/elon-musks-terrifying-visi... I'm not sure if this was a very bad joke by Elon, or if Grok 3 is really biased like that.

Karpathy notes that the model, or specifically it's DeepSearch feature "doesn't like to reference X by default" which seems counter to this.

Hopefully that means it is a joke...

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