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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by Gigachad »

teekert wrote: post #116
Zanfa wrote: post #60

Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

I think it is unnecessary to say "Putting aside the ethics". This is a very personal thing, for you it would (presumably) take putting aside your ethics, and maybe it would for me. But that is not the case for everyone. I for one don't like it when people online, with every statement, signal their personal ethics. It gets to be very tiresome and degrades my HN experience. Actually it is degrading my whole internet br…

Personally I draw the line somewhere before not funding someone who does nazi salutes. But you do you.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by freetanga »

decimalenough wrote: post #103
ddalex wrote: post #72

I'm sorry to have to say this, but buying a Tesla in 2024 is a terrible choice - the car is horrible to drive, not to mention customer satisfaction, reliability and ethical concerns. Hyundai and Polestar are way better electric options that are actually enjoyable and comfortable to drive

No, it is objectively not "horrible" to drive, the Model Y was the world's best selling car two years in a row for a reason. But OP has clearly received a lemon, and Tesla service has a well-deserved reputation for being extremely slow when they need to fix any non-trivial issue. And in the OP's case buying the car in a country with no official Tesla presence is making things even worse.

When your car is half SaaS, the experience of two years ago has little to say on the current experience.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by yreg »

Zanfa wrote: post #60

Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

> who buys a car brand in a country that doesn't even have a dealership?

I too have bought a TM3 in Slovakia. The closest Tesla service center to Bratislava is 50 kilometers away, in Vienna.

What's the problem with not having a branch here as well?

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by gambiting »

coldtea wrote: post #141
sgt wrote: post #4

If Elon wasn't so busy talking crap on Twitter all day long, he could maybe pick up on stories like these if it went viral, and get something done. This is unacceptable. Teslas, in principle, are great cars.

> Teslas, in principle, are great cars. What principle? Aside from mouth gaping nerdy admiration early on ("oh EV! oh, sportcars! Oh, it can ~kill y~ drive itself! Oh, shiny panels"), they'd been nothing but trouble for a decade now. And let's not get started on the Cybertruck either.

I agree with the sentiment that they are really terrible cars in general, but they seem to have cracked the EV efficiency riddle, almost no one else can come close to their miles/kWh numbers in real life usage. I don't know how they do it, but it's just consistently at the top of the league among EVs.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by mometsi »

conradfr wrote: post #64
lleims wrote: post #42

There's two updates to the original post: - All my communications with the Budapest Service Center: https://www.myteslaexperience.com/2025-02-04/all-my-communic... - How to spit in a customer's face: https://www.myteslaexperience.com/2025-02-07/how-to-spit-in-...

It's funny to me to buy a domain name just for that.

see also https://neuralink-challenge.org

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by NilMostChill »

teekert wrote: post #116
Zanfa wrote: post #60

Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

I think it is unnecessary to say "Putting aside the ethics". This is a very personal thing, for you it would (presumably) take putting aside your ethics, and maybe it would for me. But that is not the case for everyone. I for one don't like it when people online, with every statement, signal their personal ethics. It gets to be very tiresome and degrades my HN experience. Actually it is degrading my whole internet br…

I would read that as "I'm specifically excluding talking points and discussion on ethics in this subject and focusing solely on the talking point at hand"

That doesn't generally mean they have an ethical take, just that they recognise such things might exist and they specifically don't want to get in to it.

Is that not what you want ?

> And in come the downvotes, for speaking up against divisiveness. Doesn't that make you feel.. something?

I'd assume it was because you were claiming divisiveness when the cause of such divisiveness was specifically excluded.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by nxm »

coldtea wrote: post #141
sgt wrote: post #4

If Elon wasn't so busy talking crap on Twitter all day long, he could maybe pick up on stories like these if it went viral, and get something done. This is unacceptable. Teslas, in principle, are great cars.

> Teslas, in principle, are great cars. What principle? Aside from mouth gaping nerdy admiration early on ("oh EV! oh, sportcars! Oh, it can ~kill y~ drive itself! Oh, shiny panels"), they'd been nothing but trouble for a decade now. And let's not get started on the Cybertruck either.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s...

The Tesla Model 3 is now the second most reliable new electric vehicle you can buy. Only the new-for-2022 Kia EV6 is more trouble-free, but we don’t know whether it will match the proven record of the Model 3 as it ages. Data from over a thousand Tesla Model 3 owners tell us that every model year going back to 2018 has either average or better reliability.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by gambiting »

coldtea wrote: post #132
therein wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ford (US) and Volvo (China) Isn't Volvo Swedish?

Volvo is owned by a Chinese company these days called Zhejiang Geely

And most cars for their European market are actually made in Sweden. I mean, obviously you're correct, but I don't see the distinction as very helpful - no one is penalizing Land Rover cars for "being Indian" since they are owned by Tata either.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by tobyhinloopen »

delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #117
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a good (?) video on the subject the other day, it was mainly about Volkswagen / VAG but highlighted the software problem. Cars are / were basically Frankenstein monsters under the hood, with dozens of onboard computers / chips all needing to work independently yet collaboratively and talk to each other. VW set up a new subsidiary and hired 3000 people to build the car software system of the future, reducing…

The BMW G20 3-series before and after the facelift[1] perfectly exemplifies this issue. [1]: https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/bmw-3-ser... EDIT: top is after, bottom is before.

I'd take the bottom picture any day. Is that the newer or older one? Although the LED strips are stupid.

The top pic I saw in the showroom and I really didn't like it.

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