I will sign back up for a paid service when funding Russian search engine Yandex is dropped. Many like to forget there is a war.
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno. The thing is, Kagi isn’t really that much better than Google. When they still had a free tier, I tried it every once in a while, and it quickly wastes a lot of searches even while just entering queries, and then the chance to find something better than Google is mediocre. Perhaps a prepaid model might make more sense, especially if it’s designed not to blow through queries quickly and transparent about how m…
From kagi.com: > No ads. No tracking. No compromise. Just deep, powerful search. So you are not paying for better search but for no tracking and no ads. If you don't care about those, you're not kagi target audience.
I straight up get better results than current Google.
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#153An interesting problem with Kagi's basic model is that it ties up search history with an account in the financial system which adds failures not present when using something like Google or DuckDuckGo. But, since they accept Bitcoin, it is actually possible to wash the payment through a privacycoin and disassociate everything again. So there is a use case for crypto here that isn't obvious at first glance.
> Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also helps to scare with huge fines set up for the likes of Google and Facebook which any normal company can‘t pay in their wildest dreams.
Common sense should tell you that the amount a company like Google or Meta are fined is a lot higher than a "normal company"
It's built in. EU laws usually have a fining mechanism that says X % of {global/EU/regional} sales or a fixed sum, whichever is higher.
For example the GDPR says in Art. 83(5) [1]:
> Infringements of the following provisions shall, in accordance with paragraph 2, be subject to administrative fines up to 20 000 000 EUR, or in the case of an undertaking, up to 4 % of the total worldwide annual turnover of the preceding financial year, whichever is higher [...]
(An "undertaking" in EU law speak refers to any entity that is engaged in economic activity, regardless of its legal status or the way in which it is financed.)
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#155Unfortunately, I will never be able to take advantage of this policy, For the very reason that I have kagi Set as my exclusive search engine on every single device that I own, And there's no way that I could go even a Day, let alone a month, without using this fantastic service. Keep up the good work guys!
I just disabled it today. I have issues searching for local stuff and the other thing - it works poorly with Safari, which is of course not their fault.
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#156Only paying customers seem happy about Kagi. I have a strange feeling that a lot of paying customers think Kagi search is "better" just because their brain wants to justify them paying for search. Is there a psychological term for such a syndrome?
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#157I will sign back up for a paid service when funding Russian search engine Yandex is dropped. Many like to forget there is a war.
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#158The one area that'd make kagi thousands of dollars from me and the apps I use would be to lower their APO searches to a sane price. Currently they charge 2.5c for an API search. This is between 1,000 to 1,000,000 times more than other companies in the space charge. AI systems need to do dozens of searches for every question to get good results and kagi's results are really good. But not 1,000,000 times better than th…
maybe don't search with an llm
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get better results. I block the shit (a user preference with some good easy options), I up rank my favourites and pin Wikipedia. I’m happily paying for a family plan.
Oh yeah, in this political climate I'm definitely going to voluntarily tie my and my children's search results to my credit card. As long as people continue to gush about how amazing this service is, I'm going to gush about how ridiculuous this proposition is.
You think Kagi tracks you, to the risk of killing their business, but Google doesn't track you or collect data about your searches?
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno. The thing is, Kagi isn’t really that much better than Google. When they still had a free tier, I tried it every once in a while, and it quickly wastes a lot of searches even while just entering queries, and then the chance to find something better than Google is mediocre. Perhaps a prepaid model might make more sense, especially if it’s designed not to blow through queries quickly and transparent about how m…
From kagi.com: > No ads. No tracking. No compromise. Just deep, powerful search. So you are not paying for better search but for no tracking and no ads. If you don't care about those, you're not kagi target audience.
you can get that on DuckDuckGo. The main problem with Google is that the search is garbage. Kagi wasn't able to convince me that their better within the free searches (I have an account since 2022). Now that I can't try them anymore, they can't ever convince me they're better - so their pricing model perhaps isn't very smart.