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Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by barnabee »

mmastrac wrote: post #10

This response is just saying that "no we didn't fraudulently submit the node.js site, it's just (hand-waving)". They also state that they expect to win on the generic-ness aspect of the suit at trial with the relevant audience (hah). Most likely we'll see Oracle send out C&Ds to uses of Javascript without the (tm) Oracle for a few months before a trial starts. Whether that will be enough to convince a judge and/or ju…

Man, they ought to lose Java on generic-ness, let alone JavaScript.

Java was invented by Sun and literally nobody cares (nor is particularly happy) that Oracle currently makes a version of the JDK.

JavaScript is made by almost everyone in tech except Oracle.

If the courts don’t strike down this trademark it’ll be nothing but blatant corporatism.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

floydnoel wrote: post #48

I'm glad this is being fought, Oracle is a demon. > The major implementations of JavaScript are in the browsers built by Mozilla, Google, Apple, and Microsoft Isn't MS's browser just Chromium? Weird to add them to the list when they don't build a browser any more. Why not add Brave, etc?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSHTML

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

toddmorey wrote: post #37

Hear me out: the web / oss community could absolutely band together and rebrand JavaScript. Could be: LiveScript, WebScript, etc. There would be good support and we could do it fairly swiftly. To hell with Oracle.

Microsoft calls its variant "JScript".

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by _old_dude_ »

I'm sympathetic to the points being made but the argument that Oracle does not have its own JavaScript runtime does not hold. An OracleBD is able to execute triggers written in JavaScript since quite some time.

see https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/multilingual-engine-execu...

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

toddmorey wrote: post #37

Hear me out: the web / oss community could absolutely band together and rebrand JavaScript. Could be: LiveScript, WebScript, etc. There would be good support and we could do it fairly swiftly. To hell with Oracle.

JarvisPact

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

probably_wrong wrote: post #148
Someone1234 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is, but everyone hates that and has no idea how to say it.

I'm so glad we're all in agreement regarding how to say "gif".

gift without t. ;)

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #153
toddmorey wrote: post #37

Hear me out: the web / oss community could absolutely band together and rebrand JavaScript. Could be: LiveScript, WebScript, etc. There would be good support and we could do it fairly swiftly. To hell with Oracle.

Microsoft calls its variant "JScript".

That no longer exists in any meaningful form.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

sakesun wrote: post #84
tw04 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's necessarily fair to say Oracle is total crap. For decades they were more performant and had more features than most anything else on the market. They supported scale-out clustering on linux with Oracle RAC. They were early adopters of high performance NFS moving the NFS stack out of the linux kernel and directly into the database with DirectNFS. They built a clustered filesystem for block-based clu…

People either love or hate Oracle back then. I was in the love group. However, in recent days, Oracle is pretty irrelevant, imho.

I'd rather pay money to EnterpriseDB than give it to Redwood Shores.
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