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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by Trasmatta »

dmix wrote: post #145
Trasmatta wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Democracy doesn't mean "accept what the current administration does with no criticism, because they were democratically elected"

It does make ones eyes glaze over when American politics is everywhere you look. In every thread, about every topic. And each comment thread has 50 highly emotional comments that you have to scroll through to find the 5 few thoughtful comments near the bottom discussing the article, without going off the rails.

Why wouldn't American politics be discussed in a thread about tuberculosis in an American state?

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by School-Cotton »

brewdad wrote: post #90
SkyPuncher wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth noting, 49.8% of the voting population wanted this. Voter turn out was 63.9% of the adult population. Which means the numbers are closer to * 1/3 of adults voted for Trump * 1/4 of the entire population voted for Trump (though, that's a bit of weird example since kids can't vote)

A distinction without a difference at this point.

Why? Not voting is perfectly rational if you, like most Americans, live in a state where your vote doesn’t matter.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by giantg2 »

bannable wrote: post #137
giantg2 wrote: post #111

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Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what you're saying, then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever?

"Since 2024" means from the beginning of 2025, not "during 2024".

"There has been one so far in 2025."

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by khazhoux »

behringer wrote: post #73
Waterluvian wrote: post #66

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I wonder if we’d do better in discourse to stop pointing at an “administration.” It is a reflection of what a plurality, often majority, of people want.

The majority of people don't want this. 36 percent of americans didn't vote. That doesn't mean they don't want services, that means that in addition to 74 million that voted against trump, 90 million more also didn't want him.

Nope, those people don't count. You may as well point out that 89.7M dogs didn't vote for Trump.

The majority of people wanted this.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by ksenzee »

mhandley wrote: post #51

Not being from the US, I find it odd that the article didn't mention anything about vaccination. Until 2005, pretty much everyone in the UK received the BCG vaccine. After that the TB rate fell too low to merit routine vaccination, but even today it's still given routinely in a few areas where the rate merits it, or if there's elevated risk of exposure via family from abroad, etc. Has vaccination in general become su…

It’s a valid question, but I don’t think the current vaccine-unfriendly climate in the US is the reason why the BCG vaccine wasn’t mentioned. BCG wasn’t routinely given in the US even in the last half of the 20th century when vaccines were universally popular. I was surprised to learn a TB vaccine even existed when I started a public health−adjacent job in the 2000s. Our public health establishment just isn’t convinced it’s worth giving here.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by loeg »

lolinder wrote: post #21
PhoenixReborn wrote: post #10

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The crucial word in the headline is "recorded". I doubt that record-keeping in the 1800s was as comprehensive as it is today. Additionally, from the article: > the CDC started monitoring TB in the US in the 1950s.

Eh, "recorded history" is totally the wrong phrase. When we say "recorded history" we don't mean "the window of time in which we have detailed records up to our modern standards", we specifically mean "the window of time in which we have records of any sort", contrasted with "prehistory". The phrase they were looking for is "largest on record" or even better "largest since 195X". > For broader world history, recorded…

No I agree with you, the 1800s were part of recorded history.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by dmix »

Trasmatta wrote: post #151
dmix wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does make ones eyes glaze over when American politics is everywhere you look. In every thread, about every topic. And each comment thread has 50 highly emotional comments that you have to scroll through to find the 5 few thoughtful comments near the bottom discussing the article, without going off the rails.

Why wouldn't American politics be discussed in a thread about tuberculosis in an American state?

Look at the top thread with 50 comments and count how many are discussing tuberculosis in America. It's just another starting off point for everyone to go in a hundred directions ranting about US politics and ignore the topic

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by aikinai »

_yb2s wrote: post #149
intermerda wrote: post #26

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[flagged]

I’m an academic scientist part of a really large government funded research grant that employs hundreds of people. Last time, we had to fire half our staff immediately right up front because they said they were cutting our funding. They ended up not cutting our funding at all, but we had already fired everyone so it was lose lose- the Government spent the money but the research couldn’t be done. Just plain bad leader…

Where did the money go then?

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by rwmj »

hammock wrote: post #31
mjevans wrote: post #19

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"None of the Above" (see Bruster's Millions (Movie)) really needs to be an option...

It is. It’s called a protest vote, and it’s done by casting a blank ballot

Does the US count "spoiled ballots" separately? It's a thing in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoilt_vote

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by LarsKrimi »

Fun historical incident, but the "Spanish Flu" was traced back to Fort Riley Kansas. I think some people highlight a specific pig farm even. Now, the CDC do not list any infections of H1N5 in Kansas yet, but... Worth looking out for in anticipation maybe?

Is there any reason why Kansas would be different than other states in particular?

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