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That’s really interesting considering China is exporting fentanyl to the USA and much of the western world today.
are they exporting fentanyl to the us? do you have a source?
Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China
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This has nothing to do with democracy, it's about trying to keep a level playing field. The US has been trying to open trade with China since the 70s, and until China stops doing this the US has to adjust trade policy to keep things fair. Free and open trade is a two way street, otherwise it's just charity to the bad faith actor.
each side accuses the other of bad faith, but only one side is sabotaging the international body that is supposed to adjudicate trade disputes
That's because China has strongly failed to follow trade agreements under WTO, including the TRIPS agreement (which is an international agreement protecting IP rights), SCM agreement (which prohibits state subsidies of certain trade goods), the National Treatment Principle (which mandates equal treatment of imported and locally produced goods), National Treatment and Market Access commitments (China strongly restricts foreign ownership in certain sectors of their local market, including the tech industry), etc. Mind you most of these agreements were made in the 90s, so China has had plenty of time to comply. It's a bit pointless to keep using the WTO when a country isn't going to comply anyways.
I'm not saying the US is blameless either, but with China, it's nearly shameless. In the tech industry alone, Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitch, Steam, LinkedIn, Dropbox, ChatGPT and Copilot, Github (partially), etc are all banned in China. Shoot, Google left a decade ago after they kept getting hacked by the Chinese government. When China was still quite poor and developing, this behavior was overlooked, but as they become a rich world power on the global stage, that's not the situation anymore.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let them be insular. I don't think it should be anyone's mission to "spread democracy". If people want it, they need to fight for it for themselves.
I'd also argue that the US establishment's goal is to spread capitalism (that favors US capital), not democracy.
Agreed, and I believe that's very unfortunate.
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#154Bravo to Akamai. We should not compromise our values to fit the Chinese dictatorship’s whims. Business is more than just money, it must be.
China demands full populace control, end to end, and that’s simply contrary to values of western societies.
By Alamo making moves like this it enforces these principles within western governments as well- always remember it can change here, if we let it.
Freedom is the most valuable thing in the world. Nothing matters more, and you won’t realize that until you’ve lost what you’ve lived with for these decades.
So, no, fuck them. End our dependence on that country, starting now, and the world will prosper, and they may eventually follow our lead.
China MUST NOT lead. We will be slaves, mark my words.
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#155China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.
China doesn't want to be an opium den for western powers and have their economy underdeveloped by their firms. I think that's okay and it has been paying off. That's why China is able to develop its economy to superpower status while so much of the rest of the world is locked in dependency on the whims of G7.
Sure and I don’t even think it’s a bad move for them. And also the US should act with reciprocity.
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#156China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.
>China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. Foreign companies in China have to play by Chinese rules, which are more restrictive than the US but so do Chinese companies. When it comes to doing business abroad China imposes very few rules or conditions. Meanwhile the US has been waging a straight up trade war on China with the not just implicit but stated goal of strangling C…
As someone who lived in China for a decade I can say affirmatively you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Chinese companies do not have to play by the same rules in China, and Chinese companies are de facto and legally arms of the Chinese government.