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Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by thrdbndndn »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #149
thrdbndndn wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Allowing Backspace to go back a page. Easily solved by https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/go-back-with-backsp... their first party webext. > Being able to turn off smooth scrolling. Can disable as easily as Firefox -- chrome://flags/#smooth-scrolling Actually, Firefox lately introduced a bug that will reset smooth scrolling everytime I remote desktop to my Windows machine. Which is annoying AF and they haven'…

>Easily solved by https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/go-back-with-backsp ... their first party webext. This only works on pages where extensions are enabled, and only after the extension is successfully activated, so about 30% failure rate for me. >Can disable as easily as Firefox -- chrome://flags/#smooth-scrolling This has not worked for me reliably, and the flag has been renamed several times. For example, o…

I use all the extensions I mentioned for years, claiming it has 30% failure rate is bullshit. They don't work on internal special pages, sure, but they work flawlessly on any "normal" webpages with close to zero load time.

And no, disabling smooth scrolling works totally fine as I use it for more than 10 years.

If you're going to exaggerate your points to make a statement instead actually trying to find solutions, I have nothing for you, then.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by dralley »

rumdz wrote: post #78
echelon wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should have become the Rust company and built services around it.

Whatever happened to Servo?

Some parts of it, the parts that were production-ready, were merged into Firefox years ago and live on there. Other parts that weren't production-ready were canned and the staff laid off.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

kid64 wrote: post #121
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, the product differentiation of Firefox is a bunch of small convenience features which Chrome in its monolithism refuses to provide, such as: Allowing Backspace to go back a page. The built-in screenshot tool. Being able to turn off smooth scrolling. Support for a menubar, so that I can navigate the features I want quickly. Being able to choose page encodings (I use a non-Latin charset language). A usable/usef…

> Allowing Backspace to go back a page. I mostly agree, but whoever came up with this shortcut should get choked.

It was added with IE and cross pollinated.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by worik »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #88
reissbaker wrote: post #32

Why does Mozilla always spin their wheels releasing random side projects? Cloud-hosting an outdated tiny LLM that you can't swap out or run locally, to do basic summarization? This just doesn't feel like an area of strategic focus that makes sense for Mozilla. GPUs are expensive, talent to do inference well is expensive, and the actual product they're shipping seems pretty marginally useful at best. If they shipped v…

For me, the product differentiation of Firefox is a bunch of small convenience features which Chrome in its monolithism refuses to provide, such as: Allowing Backspace to go back a page. The built-in screenshot tool. Being able to turn off smooth scrolling. Support for a menubar, so that I can navigate the features I want quickly. Being able to choose page encodings (I use a non-Latin charset language). A usable/usef…

> Of course, for certain sites like Google Docs and YouTube, I have to use Chrome for obvious reasons

Yes, obvious.

But left unsaid is that those reasons should lead to the breakup of the (deeply evil) Google ad machine.

I struck a case where Googe Meet is the only website I have found that will not work with Firefox and my headset.

I am so disappointed by Google, I can taste it

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by yonatan8070 »

reissbaker wrote: post #32

Why does Mozilla always spin their wheels releasing random side projects? Cloud-hosting an outdated tiny LLM that you can't swap out or run locally, to do basic summarization? This just doesn't feel like an area of strategic focus that makes sense for Mozilla. GPUs are expensive, talent to do inference well is expensive, and the actual product they're shipping seems pretty marginally useful at best. If they shipped v…

Sidebery does just that, and works super well!

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by michaelmrose »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #151
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Easily solved by https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/go-back-with-backsp ... their first party webext. This only works on pages where extensions are enabled, and only after the extension is successfully activated, so about 30% failure rate for me. >Can disable as easily as Firefox -- chrome://flags/#smooth-scrolling This has not worked for me reliably, and the flag has been renamed several times. For example, o…

I use all the extensions I mentioned for years, claiming it has 30% failure rate is bullshit. They don't work on internal special pages, sure, but they work flawlessly on any "normal" webpages with close to zero load time. And no, disabling smooth scrolling works totally fine as I use it for more than 10 years. If you're going to exaggerate your points to make a statement instead actually trying to find solutions, I…

What is more likely that they are lying or it doesn't work as well in their configuration as yours? The good faith answer is that it is probably the latter.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by simonw »

hu3 wrote: post #53

Related. This is the bookmark I use to summarize websites using ChatGPT: javascript:window.open('https://chatgpt.com/?q=summarize this page in 100 words: '+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href),'_blank'); Basically it opens a new tab on chatgpt.com with the prompt: "summarize this page in 100 words: URL" Tested on Firefox and Chrome. Some websites block ChatGPT and can't be summarized this way. Works in incognito/…

Here's a version of that which should work for any page, whether or not they allow ChatGPT URL access:

    javascript:window.open('https://chatgpt.com/?q=summarize this page in 100 words: '+encodeURIComponent(document.body.innerText),'_blank');
I swapped window.location.href for document.body.innerText

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by notatoad »

reissbaker wrote: post #32

Why does Mozilla always spin their wheels releasing random side projects? Cloud-hosting an outdated tiny LLM that you can't swap out or run locally, to do basic summarization? This just doesn't feel like an area of strategic focus that makes sense for Mozilla. GPUs are expensive, talent to do inference well is expensive, and the actual product they're shipping seems pretty marginally useful at best. If they shipped v…

Building a browser is hard. Building a proof of concept of the current tech fad is easy and fun. Sometimes developers need to do easy and fun things to keep themselves motivated and happy.

You could build an AI Assistant, or you could spend a month bikeshedding some design details of vertical tabs.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by thrdbndndn »

michaelmrose wrote: post #156
thrdbndndn wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use all the extensions I mentioned for years, claiming it has 30% failure rate is bullshit. They don't work on internal special pages, sure, but they work flawlessly on any "normal" webpages with close to zero load time. And no, disabling smooth scrolling works totally fine as I use it for more than 10 years. If you're going to exaggerate your points to make a statement instead actually trying to find solutions, I…

What is more likely that they are lying or it doesn't work as well in their configuration as yours? The good faith answer is that it is probably the latter.

Yes, it is more likely he pulled 30% number out of thin air, I'm confident about that.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by noirbot »

mrec wrote: post #107
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, the product differentiation of Firefox is a bunch of small convenience features which Chrome in its monolithism refuses to provide, such as: Allowing Backspace to go back a page. The built-in screenshot tool. Being able to turn off smooth scrolling. Support for a menubar, so that I can navigate the features I want quickly. Being able to choose page encodings (I use a non-Latin charset language). A usable/usef…

Out of curiosity, what "obvious reasons" issues have you had with Docs and YouTube. I use Firefox for everything, including those, without problems. (Though not in any kind of advanced way.)

Docs just almost entirely does not function for me on Firefox on Linux. As in, I've had it crash the entire browser while just trying to type in a document. In general, Google just aggressively seems to be hostile to any non-Chrome browser using any of their sites. I'm sure they cloak it in "well Firefox just hasn't implemented this spec yet" but when it's functionally enforcing their browser monopoly I have to assume malice at this point.

Too many Google sites behave worse on any non-Chrome browser for it not to be intentional.

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