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Thankfully the EU also has legislation that makes "share data to use" tactics illegal, so this shouldn't be a problem.
How are you going to enforce this against app developers outside of the EU?
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Thankfully the EU also has legislation that makes "share data to use" tactics illegal, so this shouldn't be a problem.
Citation? I think this is not true. The EU law seems to just require explicit consent. So websites and apps can ask whether user wants to share data to keep using them for free or pay a subscription fee.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_or_pay [1]: https://uoou.gov.cz/urad/povinne-zverejnovane-informace/svob...
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No one's talking about "anonymous usage data". The topic at question is primary data available to first party apps (even if they remain on device), often synced to iCloud and available to say, Siri. I'm sure I accepted a bunch of EULAs when turning on iCloud and Siri, but Facebook will argue they've shown you their EULA too. That's not "request permissions the same way third party apps do", and some of the data can't…
This argument is silly and goes well beyond the spirit of the EU law. As if Meta has to suddenly show Apple all of its goods now too. Giving Apple access to all Facebook or Instagram data and letting them decide where to draw the line. Stop letting the distaste for Apple effect reason and sanity.
Meta is running an app store on Instagram that Apple is using?
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Did they back off of that? I have an older oculus I can dig out if I can safely walk its data off from Meta
The last time I complained about this someone mentioned they "only" force a Meta account and not a whole Facebook identity. That's a distinction without a difference to me. I will not be purchasing hardware that requires a cloud account. Especially not a peripheral.
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> So you want the EU to play whack-a-mole with fly by night IoT vendors Yes Like they do with other online criminals
Yeah, I'm sure the EU sending angry letters to nameless IoT company in shenzhen is going to be very effective.
I would expect them to use a heavier hammer to whack that mole....
I think one of my personal issues with allowing Meta to access these private APIs is that they may not take "don't allow" for an answer. I have WhatsApp to talk to some family and I recently disabled allowing all contacts in iOS 18. WhatsApp now has a persistent notification at the top of messages to "Allow All Contacts". If Apple allows users to choose whether or not to give Meta access, and users choose "no", Meta…
> I have WhatsApp to talk to some family and I recently disabled allowing all contacts in iOS 18. WhatsApp now has a persistent notification at the top of messages to "Allow All Contacts". If this is still possible, then Apple fucked up the implementation of this feature, as clearly there should be no way to differentiate not having bothered to fill out a ton of contacts and having limited access for an app to see yo…
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>Apple routinely rejects apps that try tactics like this. This is going to be irrelevant in the EU once sideloading gets popular.
What makes you think it will get popular? Android has had it forever and almost nobody uses it.
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Android is way more popular in the EU than iPhone, allows sideloading, and I am not aware of these issues being rampant with it ?
While sideloading is possible on Android, it appears to be sufficiently difficult that Google isn't effective with the argument that this makes them "not a monopoly". As a tech person I find this weird, but then I remember the relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2501/
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While sideloading is possible on Android, it appears to be sufficiently difficult that Google isn't effective with the argument that this makes them "not a monopoly". As a tech person I find this weird, but then I remember the relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2501/
But then the argument that opening iOS up is going to cause security issues isn't effective either.
Surely if normal people can't do a thing, even if only because it's too complicated or inconvenient, normal people aren't going to be a big source of security issues due to that thing.
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Apple routinely rejects apps that try tactics like this. Otherwise it'd be an easy way around the "Ask App Not To Track" prompt.
>Apple routinely rejects apps that try tactics like this. This is going to be irrelevant in the EU once sideloading gets popular.