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Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by hu3 »

SnowingXIV wrote: post #95

There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

I'd say that a >=300k/y USD compensation is higher priority for most than arguing with your bosses boss that manifest V3 is a mistake.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by jiggawatts »

slenk wrote: post #134
likeabatterycar wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I wasn't clear - this bug affects me personally, it's not some random tale I read in a forum. No, it doesn't affect the site or page rendering at all. Only the Firefox-native dialogs - like the bookmarks dialog and the hamburger menu - are affected. The bug is likely in XUL. Unfortunately I am too busy to dig through Bugzilla, make an account, etc. only for the bug to be ignored for years like the others...

> Unfortunately I am too busy to dig through Bugzilla, make an account, etc. only for the bug to be ignored for years like the others... So, if no one reports the bug, how do you expect the bug to get fixed? Instead, you just keep harking back on that unfixed bug whenever Firefox conversations come up and you can be like "but this bug has been around and no one has fixed it"

Are you kidding?

Firefox is notorious for having bugs open in core features for over a decade! I’ve found outright broken code, narrowed it down to the specific line, included documentation references, repro steps, etc… only to be totally ignored by the devs. I did get comments from several thousand other frustrated users, but never a Mozilla employee other than the occasional generic or automated housekeeping message.

Sadly the Mozilla Foundation has been overrun by special interest groups that simply want to suckle at the teat of Google funding. Millions of dollars are allocated to outright corruption, but very nearly zero to development of Firefox itself.

It’s a slow but certain road from here to a sad end.

Why would I or anyone else pretend otherwise? At the expense of our own time and effort no less?

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by talldayo »

fransje26 wrote: post #128
whamlastxmas wrote: post #106

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Google is deliberately doing this to break ad blocking for Google ads while still allowing ad blockers to work for non Google ads. Most users probably won’t care enough to change browsers or many won’t really notice

> Google is deliberately doing this to break ad blocking for Google ads while still allowing ad blockers to work for non Google ads. That's the best way to get antitrust breathing down your neck. So, with talks of Google monopoly ramping up, either this is extremely shortsighted and reckless, or they will choose to not throw oil on the fire and will not go down that road.

Believe it or not, the DOJ (and EU) have almost entirely ignored AdSense and it's integration as a monopoly force. They consider Chrome and Google Search to be the primary source of harms - the war against adblock is perfectly legal even if client-side modding should always be morally correct.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by ffsm8 »

irobeth wrote: post #62
KurtMueller wrote: post #58

Come join the Firefox revolution!

It really is amazing how things have come full circle from the point where chrome positioned itself as a "Libre" alternative to the IE near-monopoly There was a point between IE and chrome when Mozilla was always in the near-foreground offering alternatives to every internet hegemony, right around web 2.0, kinda makes me optimistic for the internet to see a resurgence of recommendations

Huh, I don't remember that narrative at all...

From how I remember it, we started with Netscape, IE outcompeted that by adding new features until they had enough share to strangle the competition. By that time IE became mandatory because of their extensions. Windows systems couldn't get updates without opening IE.

Eventually it (IE) fossilized and Firefox became the better browser with more features (remember that debugging extension?) but was still pretty slow.

Then came chrome. Way way faster, sleek and modern UI, removing the search and tool-bars. Hiding bookmarks by default and putting everything into the Omni bar. Really, that was what everyone I know of cared about: responsiveness/speed and that sleek UI.

Finally Firefox improved its resource usage/speed and adjusted it's UI, taking inspiration from chrome... But by that time, it's popularity had already dropped massively.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by scoobydooxp »

Alifatisk wrote: post #142
KurtMueller wrote: post #58

Come join the Firefox revolution!

Try out Zen browser, built on Firefox but closer to Arc.

It took a while to get used to vertical tabs but once that took, I have moved completely to Zen. It was good to see it move from alpha to beta recently.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by youngtaff »

jldl805 wrote: post #14
peutetre wrote: post #10

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Bypass Chrome altogether. Use Firefox.

Firefox on ChromeOS sucks though. Just went through this, tried Canary, etc. Went back to Chrome.

A decent alternative to ChromeOS would be a great thing

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by youngtaff »

weikju wrote: post #45
infotainment wrote: post #12

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If only Mozilla (the parent organization) wasn’t horrible. Can’t a non-crazy nonprofit make a browser?

> Can’t a non-crazy nonprofit make a browser? Here’s to hoping LadyBird remains non crazy and can be relevant by the time of their planned alpha release in 2026.

You might want to read back through the history of its creator

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by Ageodene »

Meph504 wrote: post #89
bufferoverflow wrote: post #67

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You don't have to use the crypto features.

when the defense of a project is that you can turn off the bad features, you aren't really making a chase better than say chrome or anything else. A product built on trust, shouldn't involve having to go turn off untrustworthy elements.

You don't need to "turn off the bad features" because they are opt-in to begin with.
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