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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#151

Who leaves 10K worth of anything in their car? I get antsy leaving my $200 laptop hidden under my seat! This person is crazy. There is also no guarantee they person who stole the bag wouldn't dump the bag(with the hidden AirTag) and just keep the gear or that the police would help recover it even if you gave them the location(many times the don't).

Paragliders, though with the small community their resale value is pretty low so I'm not sure it's "$10k worth", even if that's what it cost.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#152

Who leaves 10K worth of anything in their car? I get antsy leaving my $200 laptop hidden under my seat! This person is crazy. There is also no guarantee they person who stole the bag wouldn't dump the bag(with the hidden AirTag) and just keep the gear or that the police would help recover it even if you gave them the location(many times the don't).

It's not very risky to leave expensive items in the car, but in the trunk, not on the backseat! Also, never put these expensive items or really any kind of bag in the trunk after you park. Always do it before the ride. Or at least make very sure that no one is watching you.

This is a basic safety drill. And it doesn't apply to expensive things only. You don't want your window broken for a sport bag with a sweaty t-shirt used in a gym like it happened to my friend. Any kind of bag left visible in a car is a risk.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#153
post #141

The third time someone calls to complain that the alkaline batteries they put in this leaked, they'll wish they used a soldered-in 3V lithium primary cell. Even though that goes against a certain ethos.

> The third time someone calls to complain that the alkaline batteries they put in this leaked, they'll wish they used a soldered-in 3V lithium primary cell. Even though that goes against a certain ethos. Those aren't alkaline batteries. Energizer makes AA/AAA-size lithium primary batteries, which is what they are using. They wont leak and have a 25 year shelf life. https://data.energizer.com/pdfs/l91.pdf And I don't…

I saw that they recommended Energizer lithiums. So would I. Recommendations won't change that behavior, which I am very familiar with. It's ok that you aren't if you're willing to learn something today.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

order results from consequences. it's ok if you want to be timid, but don't shame others for helping restore order.

Is fear of punishment the main reason you aren't out there stealing the things you want and killing those who get in your way?

I'm a decent person, so no. But most crime is committed by a minority of scumbags who require consequences.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#155
> My camera bag with $10k of gear was stolen from my car. When I saw the broken glass and empty backseat, I immediately pulled up FindMy to track the thief ...

Aha, but that's not what AirTags are for, according to Apple at least.

On https://www.apple.com/airtag Not a single mention of "theft" or "stolen".

It will even politely inform the thief you have a tracker in your stuff:

> AirTag is designed to discourage unwanted tracking. If someone else’s AirTag finds its way into your stuff, the network will notice it’s traveling with you and send your iPhone an alert

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple will come down on them with their legal team for promoting usage of the AirTag that's not according to their intended use.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#156
post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

"Altruistic punishment in humans" - https://www.nature.com/articles/415137a

It's good for society, and (in the evolutionary equilibrium) results in massively reduced defection, if people are willing to take on high risk to aggressively punish defectors.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

order results from consequences. it's ok if you want to be timid, but don't shame others for helping restore order.

Is fear of punishment the main reason you aren't out there stealing the things you want and killing those who get in your way?

The question isn't enlightening, because the modal HN commenter isn't anything like the modal criminal

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#158
post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

order results from consequences. it's ok if you want to be timid, but don't shame others for helping restore order.

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#160
post #141

The third time someone calls to complain that the alkaline batteries they put in this leaked, they'll wish they used a soldered-in 3V lithium primary cell. Even though that goes against a certain ethos.

> The third time someone calls to complain that the alkaline batteries they put in this leaked, they'll wish they used a soldered-in 3V lithium primary cell. Even though that goes against a certain ethos. Those aren't alkaline batteries. Energizer makes AA/AAA-size lithium primary batteries, which is what they are using. They wont leak and have a 25 year shelf life. https://data.energizer.com/pdfs/l91.pdf And I don't…

He means that idiot customers will use the wrong batteries and get mad, and they absolutely will. The modal customer doesn't understand anything about battery chemistry and will unconditionally buy the cheapest battery at the store.
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