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WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by echoangle »

dang wrote: post #121
lolinder wrote: post #21

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Congrats, you're one of today's lucky 10000: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Also worth reading the poster's follow-up years later and the ensuing discussion. Graeme's observation about the significance of the comment is super important: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16661824

Time for another episode of "The Case for 9224" (not criticizing you! it's just my hobby, apparently) That comment has gotten a bum rap over the years. The commenter was trying to be helpful with Dropbox's YC application (that's what "app" meant on HN in 2007). Back then, file synchronization was widely thought to be a solution-in-search-of-a-problem. I've been trying for years to get people to understand this (start…

I never interpreted these comments as mean-spirited, it’s just funny how the comment is completely wrong on hindsight. Kind of like the 640 kB of RAM thing or horses being better than cars.

I don’t think the point is that the people saying it at the time were stupid, it’s just interesting that people can come to completely wrong conclusions which seem reasonable at the time.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by echoangle »

linotype wrote: post #98
jrflowers wrote: post #54

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I like how confident this post is. Blackrock absolutely has private equity operations which they do not hide even a little bit > Private equity is a core pillar of BlackRock’s alternatives platform. BlackRock’s Private Equity teams manage USD$41.9 billion in capital commitments across direct, primary, secondary and co-investments. https://www.blackrock.com/institutions/en-us/strategies/alte... They also do more tradi…

$42 billion at Blackrock is nothing. They manage over ten trillion dollars.

Shouldn’t you compare the sum to other private equity firms, not the rest of black rock? If they are a significant player in the space, I don’t think their other assets matter when saying that they operate in the space.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by echoangle »

barkingcat wrote: post #145
ceejayoz wrote: post #116

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That's a good way to find that judges also have fairly hefty egos, and the ability to jail you for impacting it.

I'm taking bets matt will just do a "I bet you my ego is bigger" and end up going to jail for contempt of court for 10 years. And then the day he gets out he'll continue the feud.

More like 10 days, contempt of court starts small and only accumulates if you keep doing it. I think he would get the message after the first time. But he’s got lawyers, there’s about 1% chance he’s going to jail for that.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by lesuorac »

> remove the purported list of WPEngine customers contained in the “domains.csv” file linked to Defendants’ wordpressenginetracker.com website (which was launched on or about November 7, 2024) and stored in the associated GitHub repository located at https://github.com/wordpressenginetracker/wordpressenginetra....

Considering the only changes [1] [2] have been to add more sites to the list I guess there's going to be a second hearing to enforce the injunction.

[1]: https://github.com/wordpressenginetracker/wordpressenginetra...

[2]: https://github.com/wordpressenginetracker/wordpressenginetra...

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by bawolff »

demetris wrote: post #91
adolph wrote: post #61

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what they’re trying to do is ask a judge to curtail my First Amendment rights. I've heard about corporations being persons too but a person claiming to be a corporation is a new one. Has that regal "L'État, c'est moi" ring to it.

I don't think he claims to be a corporation here. What he says is that, because wordpress[dot]org is his personal site, telling him what to do with it would violate his First Amendment rights.

Its still stupid. The first amendment doesn't mean you can do literally anything you want.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by flootz »

DannyBee wrote: post #78
legitster wrote: post #6

TL;DR: This is a huge verdict against Automattic. To get an injunction like this is a really high bar - you have to prove that you have a winnable case AND that you/the public is actively being harmed right now and it can't wait until trial. The injunction covers almost everything relevant - returning ACF, taking down the website tracker, removing the checkbox, etc. Basically return everything as it was before Matt b…

Uh, yeah, and in fact, the judge found likelihood of success on the tortuious interference claim which basically never happens, and so didn't bother to deal with the unfair competition part. That's remarkably bad for Automattic - tortuious interference is often a throwaway claim. The judge here clearly does not think much of Automattic's positions. I wonder if Neal found the merit yet[1]. [1] https://automattic.com/2…

I don't know if Neal has found the merit yet, but Automattic seems to be losing their company lawyers at a pace of one per week since a couple of months ago. That seems a pretty good indicator of where the legal department of the company sees things going towards.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by bawolff »

wlonkly wrote: post #41
rglover wrote: post #14

Rooted in speculation about why this meltdown occurred in the first place: be very careful about taking money, as well as the amount and who from. My guess from day one is that Matt was put under pressure from investors and this was the only "fix" he saw. A real shame to see such a great legacy flushed for zero ROI.

Matt has claimed[1] before to be "post-economic", i.e. has enough money that it doesn't matter to him anymore. It's hard not to see this as personal, not financial. [1] https://x.com/sereedmedia/status/1839394786622722432

That sounds like what every person pretending to be rich but isn't as rich as they claim to be, says.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by joshmanders »

edaemon wrote: post #143
jtbayly wrote: post #122

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"Lose" is pronounced with the "oo" sound like in "ooze", "tool", or "moot". I think people get tripped up on that and spell it the way it sounds.

And also at this point a lot of people are just sick and tired of fighting autocorrect when they type a word right but the autocorrect deems that word not the correct one and swaps it with another (for example typing "fuck" and autocorrect swaps with "duck" and have just begun "eh, anyone with an ounce of IQ will read that how its intended" and move on with their time.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by bigfatkitten »

linotype wrote: post #96
snowwrestler wrote: post #60

I hope Matt considers placing all the community resources of Wordpress into the foundation, including Wordpress.org, constituting an actual board, contributing funds, and setting up a governance and contribution system that matches the open ethos of the license and community. I think this is an area that Drupal gets right, and Dries wrote an interesting post about it in October: https://dri.es/solving-the-maker-taker…

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He doesn't live on the same plane of reality as you or I.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Post by ceejayoz »

avree wrote: post #146
wlonkly wrote: post #41

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Matt has claimed[1] before to be "post-economic", i.e. has enough money that it doesn't matter to him anymore. It's hard not to see this as personal, not financial. [1] https://x.com/sereedmedia/status/1839394786622722432

That was before he made tons of horrible angel investments - https://pitchbook.com/profiles/investor/106035-94#exits you can see how many of his portfolio are out of business or near death.

Isn’t that pretty normal for angel investments? It’s a numbers game.
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